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FW_190

19th August 2017 11:20

54 JG fighter pilots photo?

Hello gentlemen,
maybe someone can recognize any or all persons from this photo? Probably men from JG 54. On the background I can see FW 190. Unfortunately photo can't be shown normally from reverse side because by someone it was set up on a glue very long time ago and I don't want to risk and remove it from cardboard.

Best regards,
A.

http://i64.tinypic.com/6idzyd.jpg

Chris Goss

19th August 2017 11:51

Re: 54 JG fighter pilots photo?

Not certain but believe this is I./SKG 10. Source BA

Thomas H

19th August 2017 11:55

Re: 54 JG fighter pilots photo?

Photo is not original. It is a post war copy. Info on the back is probably "russian archive"

FW_190

19th August 2017 13:25

Re: 54 JG fighter pilots photo?

Thanks for the answers.
About originality - the photo was found in one old house mansard which were in one of the Ostland WW2 German airfield territory. Maybe photo was made after WW2 by soviets, I can't say it for sure.
Also there was some rank insignia birds and other tiny stuff.

Best regards,
Alex.

http://imgur.com/a/yt5Zt

Nick Beale

19th August 2017 15:11

Re: 54 JG fighter pilots photo?

The same photo appears on page 258 of Jean-Bernard Frappé's La Luftwaffe Face au Débarquement Allié in the chapter on I./SKG 10. The caption translates as:

…Only one of them, Ofhr. Herbert Batz (second from left) can be identified. His comrades remain unknown. All seem to be pilots, as attested to by their ranks of Feldwebel or Oberfeldwebel as well as by the Iron Cross first class which decorates their flying jackets.

The photo itself is attributed to Wolfgang Zebrowski, who was a pilot with I./SKG 10 in Normandy and wrote a memoir, Nachts über den Wolken.

FW_190

19th August 2017 15:59

Re: 54 JG fighter pilots photo?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 238419)

The same photo appears on page 258 of Jean-Bernard Frappé's La Luftwaffe Face au Débarquement Allié in the chapter on I./SKG 10. The caption translates as:

…Only one of them, Ofhr. Herbert Batz (second from left) can be identirifed. His comrades remain unknown. All seem to be pilots, as attested to by their ranks of Feldwebel or Oberfeldwebel as well as by the Iron Cross first class which decorates their flying jackets.

The photo itself is attributed to Wolfgang Zebrowski, who was a pilot with I./SKG 10 in Normandy and wrote a memoir, Nachts über den Wolken.

Thanks, I'm really grateful for given information. Very interesting. About originality, well of course I hope that this photo is original, any way I will keep it in my tiny collection of Luftwaffe.

Best regards,
Alex.

hanshauprich

19th August 2017 18:42

Re: 54 JG fighter pilots photo?

Hello,
also listed as III./KG 51, later then NSGr.20
h.

FW_190

20th August 2017 13:10

Re: 54 JG fighter pilots photo?

Many thanks, gentlemen!
Very interesting information.

Best regards,
Alex.

Thomas H

21st August 2017 07:39

Re: 54 JG fighter pilots photo?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FW_190 (Post 238423)

About originality, well of course I hope that this photo is original

Hi Alex,

As said before, it is not original. "Russian archive" photos have been on the market for decades and have nothing to do with Russian archives. These photos are produced to deceive collectors.

Did you find this photo yourself or did the seller come up with that Story? Just be aware that photos are copied and nice stories come with them for free.

Regards, Thomas

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