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micky 15th September 2017 15:14

Two requests about Ju88s....
 
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Hello, some friends found the remains of a plane identified as a Ju-88. The crash site is near Pievepelago (province of Modena, north Italy), nearby villages are Sant'Anna Pelago and Rocca Pelago. Local sources say that the plane went down between 15 and 16 November 1944. Other sources say that it was a 2/kg30 Ju-88 crashed in the night of 10 November 1943, returning to Ghedi after the bombing of Naples. Someone had other informations?

The other request is about another Ju88, belonging to the Fernaufklärungsgruppe 123. I've found in a "verlustliste" the names of:
Uffz HARTMANN Kurt
Ofw. SCHNEIDER Konrad
Lt. EPPLE Daniel
All died on 14 April 1944 over Montefiascone. I would know more about their plane and their mission.

Thanks in advance!

Rottler 15th September 2017 17:32

Re: Two requests about Ju88s....
 
In the Gen.Qu. loss list from 17 November 1943 are listed two Ju 88 losses of KG 30:

10.11. II./KG 30 Feindflug Auftrag: Hafen Neapel, Ursache: unbekannt.
Ju 88 A-4 800965 4D+EM (M = 4./KG 30) 100%
F Uffz Ernst Seidel vermisst
B Obgfr Horst Schrickel vermisst
Bf Uffz Helmut Müller vermisst
Bs Gefr Georg Katerla vermisst.

10.11. I./KG 30 Feindflug Auftrag: Hafen Neapel, Ursache: unbekannt.
Ju 88 A-4 142246 4D+EL (L = 3./KG 30) 100%
F Uffz Kurt Langer tot
B Obgfr Herbert Hochmann tot
Bf Uffz Karl Gruber tot
Bs Obgfr Otto Gärtner vermisst.

Regards
Leo

micky 15th September 2017 18:39

Re: Two requests about Ju88s....
 
Thank you Leo

edNorth 16th September 2017 01:53

Re: Two requests about Ju88s....
 
430912 Ju 88 T-1´ 4U+DH 1.(F)/123 (Luftwaffe)
OPS (F) mis (100%) unk location, on Sea-Recce in area of Cap Linaro und Ischia, believed crashed in sea near Bolsena, Italy 14.04.1944 (F Ofw. Konrad Schneider, B Lt. Daniel Epple, BF Uffz. Kurt Hartmann and BS Uffz. Franz Thiel missing)

[REF: D-1 430912 4U+DH Salonen NVM; PAchs; FB Schreiber; Böblingen doc]

This was Ju 88 T-1 conversion No. 34 (from Ju 88 D-1 airframe parts, but its uncertain if it ever flew as D-1 at Bernburg - as it appears first many months after assembly of D-1s ended at Bernburg, and then at Merseburg where many T-1 were converted and assembled) and initially had Stkz. TX+OZ, accepted by BAL Merseburg 30.11.43 (was flown by GL Flugbereitshaft Berlin / Tempelhof for a while). First flight was Merseburg 28.08.43 (three months earlier!) but arrived Perugia from Munchen-Riem 26.12.43.


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