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Loss of Lancaster LM523
On the night of 27 - 28 April 1944 Lancaster II LM523 of No.460 Squadron was shot down by a night-fighter while on an op to Friedrichshafen. Is it possible to obtain the details of who made the claim for this loss?
Regards Peter. |
Re: Loss of Lancaster LM523
There were 15 claims for Lancasters made for this date. They were:
Hptm. Wallner of L.Beo.St. 7 at 0119 Hptm Kurt Bonow of StabIII./NJG 5 at 0120 Hptm Karl Hadeball of 3./NJG 6 at 0140 Oblt. Heinz Schnaufer of StabIV./NJG 1 at 0140 Hptm Martin Drewes of StabIII./NJG 1 at 0148 Oblt Martin Becker of 2./NJG 6 at 0157 Oblt HErmann Greiner of 11./NJG 1 at 0158 Oblt Wilhelm Henseler of 1./NJG1 at 0158 Maj Hans-Joachim Jabs of Stab./NJG 1 at 0210 Hptm Kurt Bonow of StabIII./NJG 5 at 0210 Fhr Robert Schratter of 9./NJG 5 at 0210 Maj Wilhelm Herget of StabI./NJG 4 at 0250 Fw. Gunther Bahr of 3./NJG 6 at 0251 Hptm Heinz-Horst Hißbach of 5./NJG 2 at 0306 Ltn Erich Jung of 6./NJG 2 at 0310 It would be helpful if you could supply details of the crash time and location (if known) Adam |
Re: Loss of Lancaster LM523
funny, I have a listing of 25 Lancs shot down with a total of 36 for the night against the RAF, inclusion of Halis in that total.
NJG 6 claimed 14 this night's operation |
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I have in my notes the RAF raided Aulnoye, Friederichshafen, and Montzen with a force of 665 Dispatched and the loss of 35.
I have those losses "claimed" as 15 Lancs and 31 Halifax between 0119 and 0310hrs on the night of 27-28 April 1944 by the nachtjagdwaffe. Are you talking about actual Lanc. losses, or claims by the NJG? My original post was only refering to claims made against Lancasters... I could very well be wrong though :) |
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Adam, I have no time of crash but the location is given as Lahr. Regards Peter. |
Re: Loss of Lancaster LM523
We have some more cities or villages called "Lahr" in Germany:
• Baden-Württemberg, s/e Strassbourg, n/w Friedrichshafen, n Freiburg • Rheinland-Pfalz, n/w Trier • Rheinland-Pfalz, n/w Trier s/w Koblenz, w Frankfurt • Niedersachsen, s/w Bremen • Hessen, n/w Frankfurt • Bayern, n/e Rosenheim |
Re: Loss of Lancaster LM523
The following site might prove useful,
http://medlem.spray.se/jabs/Nachtjagd.html search for 27.04.44 and 28.04.44 separately... regards Adam |
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Thanks to all for the input. It will give me something to work on.
Regards Peter. |
Re: Loss of Lancaster LM523
Australians from 460 Sqn killed 28 April, 1944
http://lostbombers.co.uk Further Information "Serial Range LM301 - LM756 This aircraft was one of 350 Lancasters ordered from A.V.Roe (Yeadon) as Mk.111s except for the first ten as Mk.1s (LM301- LM310), delivered from Oct42 to Oct44. Mk.1s had Merlin 20 engines and the Mk.111s Merlin 38 engines initially installed. LM523 was delivered to 460 Sqdn 12Apr44. Lost on its first Key Operation. When lost this aircraft had a total of 23 hours. LM523 was one of three No.460 Sqdn Lancasters lost on this operation. See: LL906; ND364. Airborne 2127 27Apr44 from Binbrook. Shot down by a night-fighter and crashed at Lahr. Those killed are buried in D_rnbach War Cemetery. P/O Lynch was repatriated 6Feb45 because of injuries. S/L E.G.D.Jarman DFC RAAF KIA Sgt D.G.Champkin KIA F/O M.W.Carroll DFC RAAF KIA F/O F.G.Jackson DFC RAAF KIA F/O H.R.Harrison RAAF KIA F/O R.L.Neal RAAF KIA P/O T.J.Lynch RAAF Inj P/O T.J.Lynch had his right leg amputated. Repatriated 'Arundel Castle' 6Feb45. " LM523 AR-L2 ND324 AR-F LL906 AR-B Leslie Walter Bown (ND324) Marmion Wilfred Carroll DFC (LM523) Allan John Farrar (ND324) Hector Ronald Harrison (LM523) Francis Gordon Jackson DFC (LM523) Eric George Delancey Jarman DFC (LM523) Joseph Leary (ND324) Henry Gillen McAllister (ND324) Ronald Leslie Neal (LM523) Douglas George Champkin RAFVR (LM523) Thomas Joseph Lynch Survived War – right leg amputated (LM523) Arthur Robert Patterson. (ND324) Thomas Evan Jones RAFVR (ND324) Roy Stanley Pountney RAFVR (ND324) LM523 Served with 460 Sqn under RAF Control 20/04/44 to 27/04/44, coded AR-L2. 5 Total and 460 Sqn missions. Shot down by a night fighter and crashed at Lahr. May have been shot down by either of the following http://math.fce.vutbr.cz/safarik/ACE...-lancaster.pdf Date Rank First Name Surname Unit Enemy Place 28.4.1944 Fhr Robert Schratter NJG5 Lancaster Friedrichshafen 6000m 28.4.1944 Fw Gunther Bahr NJG6 Lancaster 50-80km NW Friedrichshafen 5500m 28.4.1944 Hptm Paul Zorner NJG5 Lancaster NW Friedrichshafen 6000m http://www.luftwaffe.cz/zorner.html http://www.luftwaffe.cz/bahr.html Cannot find a site for Schratter Kind regards Ross |
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