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Today's Guest 2nd June 2006 15:33

Wracks in Germany
 
In a German newspaper (Wormser Zeitung - this is the link:
http://www.wormser-zeitung.de/rhein-main/objekt.php3?artikel_id=2405024 )
I found some information about the wracks of 3 (!) WW II planes – two German and one American fighter found near Kaiserslautern.
The German fighters collided in the air on November 6, 1944 not far from the ruins of the castle Beilstein. The American aircraft had probably a forced landing near Waldleiningen.
Ther is no further information about the type and missions of the planes. Does somebody know more about the crashed planes?

shooshoobaby 2nd June 2006 18:46

Re: Wracks in Germany
 
2 8th AF Fighters lost this day in Germany. Both from 4th FG.
1 crashed near Rheine , GE.
1 crashed near Kappeln, GE.
Cheers

Today's Guest 2nd June 2006 20:56

Re: Wracks in Germany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shooshoobaby
2 8th AF Fighters lost this day in Germany. Both from 4th FG.
1 crashed near Rheine , GE.
1 crashed near Kappeln, GE.
Cheers

Thanks!
Kappeln is on the border to Denmark - very far from the crash place I mentioned, which is some 40-45 km west of the river Rhein (in German), so the first one is the one I'm looking for. Do you know the type of the a/c?

shooshoobaby 2nd June 2006 23:43

Re: Wracks in Germany
 
P - 51 # 414229 334th Sq. 4th FG. Lt. Earl Walsh POW Macr # 10446
Cheers

FrankieS 3rd June 2006 00:14

Re: Wracks in Germany
 
Why not ask Uwe Benkel?
his email add:
mu.benkel [at] t-online.de


USAAF FIGHTER LOSSES FOR: 06 November 1944 are:

MACR Date Type Serial Number
10446 441106 P-51 44-14229
10444 441106 P-51 44-14772
9670 441106 F-5 42-68286
10231 441106 F-5 42-68265
10232 441106 F-5 42-67395
10530 441106 P-47 42-27897
10968 441106 P-47 42-23196
11192 441106 P-47 42-75922
10281 441106 P-47 42-26009
9723 441106 P-40 42-106276
10439 441106 P-51 44-13874
9702 441106 P-47 43-25664
9693 441106 P-51 42-106500
9681 441106 P-51 42-103974
10426 441106 P-51 44-13906
10267 441106 P-47 42-27169
10274 441106 P-38 42-67941

robert_schulte 3rd June 2006 08:46

Re: Wracks in Germany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Today's Guest
Thanks!
Kappeln is on the border to Denmark - very far from the crash place I mentioned, which is some 40-45 km west of the river Rhein (in German), so the first one is the one I'm looking for. Do you know the type of the a/c?

The city Rheine is in the far NW of Germany near the Dutch border located about 300 km North of Kaiserslautern and is EAST of the river Rhine. So I don't think this is the place You are looking for.
Regards
Robert

Today's Guest 4th June 2006 04:21

Re: Wracks in Germany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robert_schulte
The city Rheine is in the far NW of Germany near the Dutch border located about 300 km North of Kaiserslautern and is EAST of the river Rhine. So I don't think this is the place You are looking for.
Regards
Robert

Rheine an der Ems, of course! So stupid of me to think first of Rhein ( I spell it allways in German, bad habit). Thanks for your remark!

Alles Gute!

P.S Wissen Sie etwas mehr ueber die neu entdeckten wracks, die ich erwaehnt habe?

robert_schulte 4th June 2006 18:18

Re: Wracks in Germany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Today's Guest
P.S Wissen Sie etwas mehr ueber die neu entdeckten wracks, die ich erwaehnt habe?

Sorry, I have no further information about these planes.
Maybe some day there will be an article in "Flugzeug Classic" or a similar paper. Who knows...
Regards
Robert


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