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cbe2009 30th March 2018 14:13

Ju 52 unit code......again!!!
 
Hello,

I have two entries from a logbook saying that on 11. and 14. December, 1939 the pilot/student flew with two Ju 52, coded 2D+IH and 2D+NH, instrument and night flights. These took place in Fürstenwalde, FFS (C) 10

I have looked but cannot find the code 2D anywhere, does anyone know where to send me, so I can again learn something new?

Thanks in advance,

Christian

Matti Salonen 30th March 2018 15:27

Re: Ju 52 unit code......again!!!
 
I have also two:
1939-09-13, Fl.Bm.Sch. R.L.M. Staaken, Ju 52/3m, 6139, 2D+PH, Bei Zinnitz, Straße Luckau-Calau
Absturz bei Kurierflug Radom - Staaken. Bruch 100 %.
1939-10-09, 4./KGr.z.b.V. 106, Bf 108, 2D+EM, Norddeutschland
Bodenberührung wegen schlechter Sichtverhältnisse. Bruch 100 %.

Unfortunately I also have no idea of its origin.

Matti

gogh 30th March 2018 15:41

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a few all expired Ebay only the Bf 110 dubious
Attachment 16409

Attachment 16410

Attachment 16411
and I have a note made that 2D+ was Flugbereitschaft/RLM Staaken and after 1939 only stkz codes

cbe2009 30th March 2018 23:06

Re: Ju 52 unit code......again!!!
 
Thank you for your help gentlemen!! It's highly appreciated!!

I have found two more entries, still with Ju 52 and also at Fürstenwalde.

2D+NM and 2D+GH

Have a nice evening,

Christian

Stig Jarlevik 31st March 2018 10:42

Re: Ju 52 unit code......again!!!
 
Looking in Barry Rosch's Bible, I notice he follows Gogh and says 2D was Flugbereitschaft/RLM Staaken.

Flugbereitschaft in its general sense only means 'ready to fly' but no doubt this was some kind of VIP unit as all other such units were in their basic form. It is interesting so see that Luftwaffe still use such a title for its VIP staffel.

I was intrigued by the unit designation used by Matti and I wonder what it stands for? Fl usually stood for Flieger/Flug and may stand for Flugbereitschaft here, but I find nothing that corresponds to Bm in Rosch's book. Sch has to be Schule. So, guessing wildly, could this be something to do with training personal to become pilots and crew of various VIP units? :o

Anyone?

Cheers
Stig

Nick Beale 31st March 2018 11:39

Re: Ju 52 unit code......again!!!
 
Flugbereitschaft in its general sense only means 'ready to fly'
Some wartime Allied sources translate it as "Duty Flight". I suppose the comparison is a "Duty Officer", available to call on at any time if they're needed.

Stig Jarlevik 31st March 2018 13:23

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Quite correct that too Nick

No doubt the assigned crews had to be ready and on stand by around the clock to satisfy the needs of both politicians and high ranking officers.

Cheers
Stig

Jim P. 1st April 2018 06:37

Re: Ju 52 unit code......again!!!
 
The 110 is coded '3U' for ZG 26.

gogh 1st April 2018 12:02

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Thanks Jim


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