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canonne 21st April 2018 18:09

BREUER Wilhelm (JG 54) victories ?
 
Hi,

Concerning this pilot I have got only 3 victories. But it seems a total group of 4 kills :

1- 23.06.1941. SB-3 / Stab. I/ JG 54.
2- 06.07.1941. SB-3 / 1/JG 54.
3- 23.06.1942. SB-3 / 1/JG54.

Please would you be so kind as to confirm / complete / change this list ?
Thank you.
Philippe

Rottler 21st April 2018 19:19

Re: BREUER Wilhelm (JG 54) victories ?
 
Hello Philippe,

in the "Luftwaffe Kracker Archive" are noted five victories:
1 28 May 1940 Spitfire W Dunkirk
2 4 Sept 1940 Spitfire S Hythe
3 23 June 1941 SB-3
4 6 July 1941 SB-3
5 23 June 1942 SB-3.

In the JFV Volumes 3, 4/II and 6/II four claims are listed :
1 28 May 1940 3./JG 54 Curtis west of Dunkirk, claim not confirmed
2 4 Sept 1940 Stab I./JG 54 Spitfire south of Hythe, claim not confirmed
3 23 June 1941 Stab I./JG 54 SB-2, claim confirmed
4 6 July 1941 1./JG 54 SB-3, claim confirmed.
No entry for 23 June 1942.

Regards
Leo

natttuppen 22nd April 2018 14:36

Re: BREUER Wilhelm (JG 54) victories ?
 
He is not listed in Luftwaffe Aces Biographies and Victory claims part 1, by Mathews and Foreman.

canonne 22nd April 2018 16:44

Re: BREUER Wilhelm (JG 54) victories ?
 
All your contribution are very helpfull ! Thank you very much indeed ! I do appreciate. Please is it possible the official list of victories of a fighter pilot could change ? Or did all lists compiled during wartime will never change ?
Thank you
Regards

Phil.

Johannes 22nd April 2018 17:11

Re: BREUER Wilhelm (JG 54) victories ?
 
Hi Guys

Totals for pilots vary because of several things, some included unconfirmed in their total, others a confusion with the points system, some are quoted from other pilots.......and not always correct, other taken from abschuße bords(these include unconfirmed), a few pilots exaggerated !

I have compiled a list of "ALL" Luftwaffe pilots who made a least one "confirmed" claim by official sources, if anybody would like a copy drop me your e.mail address, or even better if anybody can link TOCH to it even better.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Black6 22nd April 2018 17:37

Re: BREUER Wilhelm (JG 54) victories ?
 
I have a comment in my notes against 23 June 1942 which says (error duplicated, see 23. 6.41 - not Ace)


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