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Norbert Schuchbauer 18th June 2006 02:32

MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
Hi All,
I hope someone can help me. I'm looking for info on the following MACR:
788, 822, 831, 832, 920, 1036.

They all are for the Schweinfurt mission on 14. Oct 1943.

I hope someone is willing to assist me. Maybe in return I can help with some Luftwaffe stuff.

Send me a private e mail if it is more desirable.

N.Schuchbauer@comcast.net

Regards,

Norbert

edwest 18th June 2006 03:48

Re: MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
Hello Norbert,


I have 788 and 831 for a B-17 (THUNDERBIRD) serial 42-30453, 96th Bomb Group.
822 is a B-17 (THE HAMMER OF HELL) serial 42-30175, 306th Bomb Group, 367th Bomb Squadron.
832 is a B-17 (V-PACKET) serial 42-30806, 96th Bomb Group, 339th Bomb Squadron.
920 is a B-17 serial 42-37740, 305th Bomb Group, 365th Bomb Squadron.
1036 is a B-17 (ONDA BALL) serial 42-6096, 351st Bomb Group, 511th Bomb Squadron.


Ed

Norbert Schuchbauer 18th June 2006 16:11

Re: MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
Thank you very much Ed. I'm slowly getting somewhere. Would you be willing to share the crew names ranks and fate of the two MACR you have? Would really apprechiate this.

Thanks,

Norbert

edwest 18th June 2006 22:09

Re: MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
MACR 788 shows a date of 14/10/43 but I have nothing further.

MACR 822: MIA Schweinfurt with Butler, shot down by enemy aircraft, crashed Schweinfurt; 10 POW. Date 14/10/43.

MACR 831: MIA Regensburg with Davison, hit by flak, crashed Saverne, France; 3 Evaded, 1 KIA, 6 POW. Date: 17/8/43.

MACR 832: MIA Schweinfurt with Scarborough, shot down by enemy aircraft, crashed Rheims, France; 10 POW. Date: 14/10/43.

MACR 920: MIA Schweinfurt with Bullock, shot down by enemy aircraft, crashed Schweinfurt; 2 Evaded, 1 KIA, 7 POW. Date: 14/10/43.

MACR 1036: MIA Schweinfurt with Crimson, shot down by enemy aircraft, crashed Schweinfurt; 1 KIA, 9 POW. Date: 14/10/43.



Ed

Alex Smart 19th June 2006 03:20

Re: MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
Hi,
Details from "Losses of the 8th & 9th Air Forces Vol 1"

MACR 822
Crew names
1Lt. Richard Butler
1Lt. Harold K. McCaleb
T/Sgt. Alexander Heyburn jr
S/Sgt. Edward DeBuyser jr
S/Sgt. Ernest H. Henderson
1Lt. John W. Kappmeyer
2Lt. Francis X. Banda
T/Sgt. Amos R. May
S/Sgt. Marcel J. St. Louis
S/Sgt. James E. Harris
ALL were POW.
Alex

Alex Smart 19th June 2006 03:57

Re: MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
Hi again,

Re: MACR 788
The AAIR site gives this loss 42-30453 as the 14th Oct 43 with the 96 BG with 2Lt. Roy G. Davidson.
Re: MACR 831
The AAIR site gives this loss 42-30453 as the 14th Oct 43 with the 94BG 333BS with 2Lt. Silas S. Nettles.

So pick the bones out of that one ?
2Lt. Silas S. Nettles was with 42-3453 of the 94BG 333BS all crew POW.This crew however was from the 96BG 339BS.MACR 831.
That would make
2Lt. Roy G. Davidson with 42-30453 also of the 94BG 333BS MACR 788.But this is also listed as MACR 831.

Both a/c are given as "TS-K", while only 42-30453 is given the name "Thunderbird"

Alex

Alex Smart 19th June 2006 04:21

Re: MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
Hi,
Nettles Crew were -
2Lt. Robert E. O'Hara
T/Sgt. Eugene F. Sebeck
S/Sgt. Marshall S. Hammer
S/Sgt. Kenneth L. Karlson
2Lt. Jerry V. LeFors
2Lt. Edward O. Jones
%T/Sgt. Charles F. Putman
S/Sgt.Gregory Drobinko
S/Sgt.Charles R. Siberty

Alex

Alex Smart 19th June 2006 04:27

Re: MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
And Davidson's (POW) crew were -
2Lt. Alden L. Faudie EVD
S/Sgt. Fred C. Krueger POW (not in ABMC list)
S/Sgt. Carl F. Gibson KIA
S/Sgt. Claude W. Page POW
2Lt. Stanley R. Chichester EVD
2Lt. Charles Breuer EVD
T/Sgt. Louis C. Koth POW
S/Sgt. Arthur F. Howell POW
S/Sgt. Richard H. Mungenast POW (not in ABMC list)

Thats it for now.

Alex

Alex Smart 19th June 2006 05:23

Re: MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
From the Mighty Eighth Combat Chronology Supplement.

42-3453 MACR 831 2Lt. Silas S. Nettles POW as were the whole crew.

where as 42-30453 MACR 788 2Lt. Roy G. Davidson whose crew were 6 POW, 3 EVD and one,S/Sgt. Carl F. Gibson killed in action .

Have edited the above thread to show crew fate's for Davidson crew.

Alex

Norbert Schuchbauer 19th June 2006 06:58

Re: MACR for 14. Oct 1943
 
Thanks Alex and Ed,
you helped me clarify some of the questions. Had the same problem like you Alex with the 788 and 831 and the different serial numbers. Initially I thought there was a typo since the numbers are so close.

Thanks again for the wonderful assistance insolving my puzzle.

Norbert


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