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ouidjat 5th September 2018 08:55

Bf109D WNr.492 "Schlachtfl. Ausb.-Geschwader" (?)
 
Hi Guys,

On 28 October 1942 a Bf109D WNr.492 was accidented at Bermericourt. Unit said to be "Schlachtfl. Ausb.-Geschwader".
...
What is this unit? When and where was it created?

Thanks to any comment to help me to clear this.

Regards,
Franck.

sidney 5th September 2018 22:37

Re: Bf109D WNr.492 "Schlachtfl. Ausb.-Geschwader" (?)
 
Franck,

I have it as Schl.G 101.

Regards,
Sinisa

Larry deZeng 5th September 2018 23:24

Re: Bf109D WNr.492 "Schlachtfl. Ausb.-Geschwader" (?)
 
This is a good one, Franck.

Evolution of Schlachtflieger training:

To Oct 42: carried out by JFS 4 (Fürth).
Oct 42: being reorganized and during the second half of October informally referred to as Schlachtflieger-Ausbildungs-Geschwader to 31 Oct 42 wirh station at Reims/France.
01 Nov 42: all Schlachtflieger training taken over by IV./Zerstörerschule 2 at Reims/France to 15 Jan 43.
16 Jan 43: IV./ZS 2 renamed Schlachtfliegerschule 1 at Reims to 31 Jan 43.
01 Feb 43: Schl.Fl.Schule 1 renamed SG 101 with Geschwaderstab at Paris-Orly, I./SG 101 (ex-IV./ZS 2) at Reims and II./SG 101 (ex-III./ZS 2) at Paris-Orly.

[See: Carlsen, Sven and Michael Meyer. Die Flugzeugführer-Ausbildung der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1935-1945 [German Air Force Pilot Training 1935-1945]. Zweibrücken: VDM Heinz Nickel Verlag: Band II: Fliegerwaffenschulen und Ergänzungsgruppen [Aviation Combat Schools and Replacement Groups] (2000). ISBN: 3-925480-34-x.

L.

ouidjat 5th September 2018 23:53

Re: Bf109D WNr.492 "Schlachtfl. Ausb.-Geschwader" (?)
 
Hi Friends,

Sorry Sinisa but SG101, or Schl.G 101 if you want, wasn't created before 01/02/1943.
Thanks very much Larry at last the answer I was expecting!...
And shame on me since I have the book of Carlsen & Meyer. :)

Anyway, it's a good opportunity to have an interesting conversation.
I didn't lose my time with that question.

Cheers,
Franck.

sidney 6th September 2018 15:08

Re: Bf109D WNr.492 "Schlachtfl. Ausb.-Geschwader" (?)
 
Yes, Franck, I quoted the available info on the subject. However, Larry's e-mail was very clear in that respect.

Good to hear from you.

Regards,
Sinisa

ouidjat 6th September 2018 15:25

Re: Bf109D WNr.492 "Schlachtfl. Ausb.-Geschwader" (?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sidney (Post 257489)
Yes, Franck, I quoted the available info on the subject. However, Larry's e-mail was very clear in that respect.

Good to hear from you.

Regards,
Sinisa

No problem Sinisa, you are welcome.
In fact it does exist two versions (why? we don't know):
the one given by Georg Morisson who did quote "Schlachtfl. Ausb.-Geschwader" according his last comment concerning this accident.
And the one given by Michael Balss who did quote "Schl.G 101".
...
Indeed with the same GQM reference :)
This last wasn't acceptable for me since, again, it didn't exist at that time as commented above.

Cheers,
Franck.


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