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Nokose 21st November 2018 00:14

9./JG 53 31 August 1941
 
I am looking for the name of a pilot in the 9./JG 53 who shot down a V-11 at around 11:20 (12:20 Moscow), as I am not at home to look in JFV 6/II. I have Goetz, Hippert, Stumpf but not the spelling of the last Narytsu (?).

Laurent Rizzotti 21st November 2018 00:27

Re: 9./JG 53 31 August 1941
 
Here is what is in Prien's book for 9./53 around 1120 hrs on 31 August 1941:

Ofw. Werner Stumpf (21) V-11 E. Barok 11.20 519
Oblt. Franz Götz (25) V-11 E. Barok 11.21 520
Fw. Heinz Hipper (5) V-11 E. Barok 11.21 521
Uffz. Max Nairz (3) V-11 E. Barok 11.21 522
Uffz. Max Nairz (4) V-11 E. Barok 11.23 523
Ofw. Werner Stumpf (22) V-11 E. Barok 11.24 524

Nairz = your Narytsu?

Nokose 21st November 2018 03:06

Re: 9./JG 53 31 August 1941
 
Thanks Laurent. 5 Il-2 shot down from the 215 ShAP.

kirche 22nd November 2018 12:37

Re: 9./JG 53 31 August 1941
 
Hello, Michael
lost were all 6 Il-2, which soared on this mission. On approach to target fighters cover (129 IAP) lost group Il-2, over target lost 1 Il-2 (anti-aircraft artillery-Goncharenko?) and on the retreat attacked by "three BF-109", which in turn knocked down each flight Il-2 (two were shot down and three were missing). Total lost five pilots: captain Mikhail Markovich Skrypnik, lieutenant Vasily Romanovich Goncharenko, junior lieutenants Nikolai Stepanovich Yakimenko, Vasily Evdokimovich Mamsikov and Fyodor Vladimirovich Tambovtsev.

Only the target for the IL-2 was 20 km west of Borok - this is the area of Morozha-Poluyanovo
A total of 215 SHAP flew five times a this day on a mission (this third).

2,5 hours later, Red Army soldier Semen Semenovich Abramov from his four-barreled machine gun shot down an enemy Bf-109 over the airfield of Adrianopol - the pilot jumped out, but resisted on the ground and was killed. This was "an officer who had 2 orders of the" Iron Cross ", by the name of Schmidt" - as written in the award document of the soldier.

Laurent Rizzotti 22nd November 2018 19:37

Re: 9./JG 53 31 August 1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirche (Post 261090)
2,5 hours later, Red Army soldier Semen Semenovich Abramov from his four-barreled machine gun shot down an enemy Bf-109 over the airfield of Adrianopol - the pilot jumped out, but resisted on the ground and was killed. This was "an officer who had 2 orders of the" Iron Cross ", by the name of Schmidt" - as written in the award document of the soldier.

Possibly Oblt Erich Schmidt, the Staffelkapitän of 9./JG 53. His Bf 109F-2 WNr 12633 "Yellow 6" was shot down by AA fire "in the Velikiye Luki area, near Dubno" according to German loss lists. Schmidt was last seen parachuting, and is missing ever since.

kirche 22nd November 2018 21:02

Re: 9./JG 53 31 August 1941
 
Hello Laurent,
Why is it possible? It was precisely Erich Schmidt.
https://warspot-asset.s3.amazonaws.c...5e0183acbc.jpg
he stands on the left with two "Crosses" - this is at the end of August, shortly before his death.
Abdrasul Bakhmanov commanded an it's antiaircraft point at 588 BAO.

Laurent Rizzotti 22nd November 2018 21:37

Re: 9./JG 53 31 August 1941
 
I said it is possible because I have no idea where Adrianopol is, and has no time to check.

kirche 22nd November 2018 23:26

Re: 9./JG 53 31 August 1941
 
Sorry,
not Adrianopol - correct Andreapol, Tver region (Dubna - northern outskirts of the city)


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