Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/index.php)
-   Allied and Soviet Air Forces (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=7)
-   -   RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=53640)

spitty80 8th April 2019 08:21

RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
Hi All,

I am researching a RAF DAKOTA crash in my region, period Market garden.

What I know:
- no KIA's
- 3 evaders
- +6 POW's (the a/c did not make it to the DZ)
- environment Turnhout, Dessel, Retie, Mol (Belgium)

a/c is not mentionned inthe 'aviation safety network database'.

Is there a list available from the missing RAF Dakota's?

best regards,
Wim
www.battleforthelocks.be

Alex Smart 9th April 2019 03:14

Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
Hello Win,
I am not sure, but if I remember correctly, the Losses were discussed on this forum some time ago, So take a look in the archive section.
Alex

Col Bruggy 9th April 2019 05:36

Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
Hello,

No idea if this is the aircraft you mention, but some of the details match up:

21-09-1944
No.437 (RCAF) Sqn.
Dakota III FZ656 (42-92417)

Crash landed Turnhout, Belgium,

Crew:

J/20134 F/O (Pilot) Robert Allen KENNY RCAF - PoW
AUS409908 W/O (2nd Pilot) Ronald Edgar ENGLISH RAAF - PoW
1607215 Sgt (Nav.) Louis EVANS RAFVR - PoW
J/87683 P/O (W.Op.) Alfred H. MacALONEY RCAF - PoW

Despathchers:

Driver W. T. EVANS, 799 Airborne RASC - PoW
Driver ? JENSEN, 799 Airborne RASC - PoW
Driver ? JORDAN, 799 Airborne RASC - PoW
L/Cpl ??????????, 799 Airborne RASC - PoW

Maybe someone can add a bit more detail to the above.

Col.

Alain57 9th April 2019 09:16

Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
Hello ,

I can find no POW trace from these men , if they came down near Turnhout , who was already liberated , who did the became POW ?
Check the following link once

http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...ron-RCAF/page3

Ragards
Alain57

Alex Smart 9th April 2019 12:51

Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
Just for info, here are serial numbers of RAF Dams lost on Op 'Market Garden' from 18th to the 26th.
18
KG570 - 512 Sqn.
19th
FZ626 - 271 Sqn.
KG374 - 271 Sqn.
KG388 - 575 Sqn.
KG428 - 48 Sqn.
KG324 - 512 Sqn.
KG401 - 48 Sqn.
20th
KG413 - 512 Sqn.
21st
FZ620 - 48 Sqn.
FZ656 - 437 Sqn.
KG340 - 271 Sqn.
KG346 - 48 Sqn.
KG376 - 437 Sqn.
KG387 - 437 Sqn.
KG399 - 233 Sqn.
KG404 - 48 Sqn.
KG417 - 48 Sqn.
KG444 - 271 Sqn.
KG489 - 437 Sqn.
KG516 - 271 Sqn.
KG566 - 233 Sqn.
KG579 - 48 Sqn.
KG586 - 233 Sqn.
23rd
KG315 - 437 Sqn.
KG370 - 48 Sqn.
25th
KG512 - 271 Sqn.
26th
KG449 - 575 Sqn.

Refs were Air Brit FA100-FZ999 and KA100-KZ999.
Alex

Leendert 9th April 2019 18:59

Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
Alain,


Re your Post # 4: Turnhout was (fully) liberated on 24 September 1944, so crew and/or soldiers of the Dakota may have been taken prisoner during Market Garden if a/c came down in vicinity of town.


Groet,


Leendert

Leendert 9th April 2019 19:26

Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
In the online book "Air Battle for Arnhem" (Alan W. Cooper) it transpires on p. 112 that pilot Kenny and driver Evans could evade thanks to Dutch resistance people and found their way back to England.


W/O Ronald English appears on this Australian website as POW: http://www.powmemorialballarat.com.a...-war-2-e-f.php


Regards,


Leendert

Leendert 9th April 2019 19:43

Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
Alfred MacAloney (RCAF) appears in the Ottawa Journal of 23 Nov 1944 as being a POW in Germany.


Regards,


Leendert

alieneyes1 9th April 2019 20:45

Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
Colin Cummings "Though Without Anger" has:


Quote:

The aircraft was hit by flak and despite getting to the Belgian border, it was eventually crash landed on heathland. The crew, captained by Flying Officer Kenny, was captured with the exception of two of the despatchers who evaded.

Kenny's parents must have been quite surprised as the day that Kenny went missing was the same day they received a telegram informing them that their other son, F/O James Frederick Henry Kenny, was reported Prisoner of War.


Dave

Col Bruggy 10th April 2019 04:08

Re: RAF DAKOTA losses Market Garden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smart (Post 267284)
Just for info, here are serial numbers of RAF Dams lost on Op 'Market Garden' from 18th to the 26th.
18
KG570 - 512 Sqn.
19th
FZ626 - 271 Sqn.
KG374 - 271 Sqn.
KG388 - 575 Sqn.
KG428 - 48 Sqn.
KG324 - 512 Sqn.
KG401 - 48 Sqn.
20th
KG413 - 512 Sqn.
21st
FZ620 - 48 Sqn.
FZ656 - 437 Sqn.
KG340 - 271 Sqn.
KG346 - 48 Sqn.
KG376 - 437 Sqn.
KG387 - 437 Sqn.
KG399 - 233 Sqn.
KG404 - 48 Sqn.
KG417 - 48 Sqn.
KG444 - 271 Sqn.
KG489 - 437 Sqn.
KG516 - 271 Sqn.
KG566 - 233 Sqn.
KG579 - 48 Sqn.
KG586 - 233 Sqn.
23rd
KG315 - 437 Sqn.
KG370 - 48 Sqn.
25th
KG512 - 271 Sqn.
26th
KG449 - 575 Sqn.

Refs were Air Brit FA100-FZ999 and KA100-KZ999.
Alex

Hello,

20th
512 Sqn - KG413 - Should read KG418*. KG413 was a No.194 Sqn Dakota III that overshot a landing in heavy rain at Sylhet, India on 23-6-44 DBR.

* https://www.tracesofwar.com/sights/4...kota-KG418.htm

Col.


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 18:21.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2026, 12oclockhigh.net