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ginamod 2nd November 2019 20:04
Difficult identification
 
Hi All,
I was handed out two war fotos,
showing a wrecked ? plane and guards.

Any ideas

which plane model,
model under construction,
which unit,
which year,
where is the county, which country,

?

Thx dear experts for your replies

dnalor

sidney 3rd November 2019 11:27
Re: Difficult identification
 
Hi,

A nice find.

Plane model: Fw 190 A-2 or Fw 190 A-3
Model under Construction: Not sure what you mean?
Unit: IV. Gruppe of Jagdgeschwader 5, 12. Staffel, the aircraft coded "Yellow 15"
Year: I believe early 1943
Country: Norway, possibly the island of Herdla

And that elusive Staffel emblem...

Regards,
Sinisa

RolandF 3rd November 2019 20:21
Re: Difficult identification
 
Looks like the skiing Mickey Mouse also found on "Yellow 16"" from 12./JG 5 WNr 5425

Regards
RolandF

ginamod 3rd November 2019 20:51
Re: Difficult identification
 
Many thx dear Friends,
precise data, I am overwhelmed.
One problem remaining for me:
What about Micky Mouse and the emblem.
What is the emblem, could not find earlier anything looking like this "shadow" emblem. So I have no idea what the emblem looks (looked) like in reality. Maybe i find it now with your data. Or you let me know.
All the best
dnalor

edwest2 3rd November 2019 21:35
Re: Difficult identification
 
The emblem is on page 31 of Luftwaffe Emblems 1939-1945 by Barry Ketley. It is Mickey Mouse on skis which make up the lower V shape, and the short angled piece in the upper right might be part of a scarf. A strange drawing.

JKStenwig 4th November 2019 12:34
Re: Difficult identification
 
Norway probably, but not Herdla.

You won't find that kind of moutains on the island of Herdla.

JKS

ginamod 4th November 2019 23:04
Re: Difficult identification
 
A glimpse on Wiki about Herdla supports Stenwig´s opinion.
But all suggestions are welcome.

As for :under construction:
a common phrase in New-German meaning a thing gets built, renewed, restored, salvaged, put together, repaired....

Grettings
dnalor

sidney 4th November 2019 23:13
Re: Difficult identification
 
Yup,

Still not sure what to make it from Model + under construction...?

The aircraft apparently got damaged, possibly in hard landing, and it may have never flown again. Other than that, it is hard for me to tell.

Perhaps some resident experts can tell something more.

Regards,
Sinisa


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