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Stig Jarlevik 30th July 2006 20:34

Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
Hi All

Has anyone any details about the losses the Lufwaffe suffered in Iraq?
Two units were involved withing Kommando Junck
4./ZG 76
4./KG 4

Are the WNr for each unit known or are they lost to History??

Cheers
Stig

marsyao 30th July 2006 20:51

Re: Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
Luftwaffe lost 14 Bf-110s, 5 He-111s and serveral Ju-52s in Iraq

Steve49 30th July 2006 21:53

Re: Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
I guess you've seen 'Dust clouds over the middle east', if you haven't it's got some details of the operations of Oberst Junck's illfated Fliegerfuhrer Iraq, but no WNr's. It gives the force a strength of;

4./ZG76 (12 Bf110C)
A Kette from ZG26 (2 Bf110C)
4./KG4 (7 He111H-6) (though it seems only 5 were despatched; 5J+AM, 5J+LM, 5J+GM, 5J+AC and 5J+BC)
As well as 20 Ju52/3m's and 'a few Ju90's.

It appears that all of the despatched aircraft were lost, though it is not clear exactly whether all of the intended 20 plus transport aircraft were despatched and then destroyed/abandoned.

Regards

Steve Pegge

Stig Jarlevik 30th July 2006 22:36

Re: Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
Thanks Guys

Yes I have Dust Clouds in the Middle East

I was thinking more about the front-line aeroplanes, but does anyone have the actual losses suffered in Iraq INCLUDING the Ju 52??

Cheers
Stig

Steve49 31st July 2006 12:22

Re: Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
Stig,

According to 'Eagle in flames' the operation cost '19 combat aircraft and two transports', but has no further details.

Regards

Steve Pegge

rob van den nieuwendijk 31st July 2006 13:42

Re: Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
Hello all,

Also see next links - which might be of interest:

http://www.afrika-korps.de/forum/vie...8d524266d4e09b

http://www.lwag.org/phpBB2/viewtopic...784feed8201b2d

http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewt...eab3f319c3576b

http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/opsrep.html

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...36da28a63e5983

Regards
Rob

Sergio Luis dos Santos 31st July 2006 14:24

Re: Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
Martin Drewes, a night-fighter ace is the sole survivor from the Irak mission. He talks about this mission in his book, "Sombras da Noite" from Adler Editora.
http://www.adler-books.com.br/principal.htm

Alex Smart 31st July 2006 17:51

Re: Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
Hello Stig,

Have you looked in on the LEMB site ?

There is a wealth of photos and some info on the Iraqi event there.

Alex

ChrisMAg2 31st July 2006 18:18

Re: Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
The link to LEMB is here:
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...showtopic=1916

Stig Jarlevik 1st August 2006 21:21

Re: Luftwaffe in Iraq
 
Thanks Guys

I have most of the sources quoted. What I was after were the WNr for the lost aeroplanes. Were they never recorded??

Cheers
STig


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