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James S. 16th December 2019 22:40

8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
Does anyone know where one may find information on these early 8th Air Force bombing missions, be it mission and/or crew reports, book or books that focus on the early missions, first hand accounts, etc. I am very interested in the early missions, but not having a lot of luck. I do have some unit histories on most of the units.

Thanks,
James

edwest2 16th December 2019 23:16

Re: 8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
Hi,

A few suggestions:

8th Air Force: American Heavy Bomber Groups in England 1942-1945 by Grégory Pons

The Mighty Eighth: A History of the Units, Men and Machines of the US 8th Air Force by Roger A. Freeman

The following book is currently unavailable but I include it on the off chance you can find it through a used bookseller.
Losses of the US 8th and 9th Air Forces: Aircraft and Men June 1942-December 1943 by Stanley D. Bishop

James S. 17th December 2019 00:17

8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 279496)
Hi,

A few suggestions:

8th Air Force: American Heavy Bomber Groups in England 1942-1945 by Grégory Pons

The Mighty Eighth: A History of the Units, Men and Machines of the US 8th Air Force by Roger A. Freeman

The following book is currently unavailable but I include it on the off chance you can find it through a used bookseller.
Losses of the US 8th and 9th Air Forces: Aircraft and Men June 1942-December 1943 by Stanley D. Bishop

Thank you, Ed. I have the Freeman book Will have to check out the Pons book and the one by Bishop.

AMC 17th December 2019 00:53

Re: 8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 279496)
Hi,


A few suggestions:

8th Air Force: American Heavy Bomber Groups in England 1942-1945 by Grégory Pons

The Mighty Eighth: A History of the Units, Men and Machines of the US 8th Air Force by Roger A. Freeman

The following book is currently unavailable but I include it on the off chance you can find it through a used bookseller.
Losses of the US 8th and 9th Air Forces: Aircraft and Men June 1942-December 1943 by Stanley D. Bishop

I have the three books, and they are fine books certainly, but treat their subject mostly in a general sort of way.
To really get more on the missions concerned one really would have to gather which Groups were involved, and get the books covering same. I would have many of these books but it would take so much time and work, I can only wish you luck in your endeavours...

James S. 17th December 2019 01:04

8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMC (Post 279499)
I have the three books, and they are fine books certainly, but treat their subject mostly in a general sort of way.
To really get more on the missions concerned one really would have to gather which Groups were involved, and get the books covering same. I would have many of these books but it would take so much time and work, I can only wish you luck in your endeavours...

Exactly. I have many unit histories, and like you said, it would take a lot of time and work to work through each of them.

Is there a website where one may find mission reports, etc or anything from some of the early B-17 & B-24 Groups? I would love to do comprehensive research on the first 6-8 months of the 8th's bombing missions.

Frank Olynyk 17th December 2019 01:40

Re: 8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
James,

As Shakespeare said, Get thee to an Archivery.

Everybody likes to think they can find all the information they want on the Internet. They have no idea how much paper is held by USAF Historical Research Agency at Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, Alabama; and in addition, just in your area of interest, at the National Archives in College Park, Maryland, in Record Group 18.

The WW2 material at Maxwell was microfilmed many years ago, and is currently slowly being copied over to PDFs. You may be able to make arrangements to go there to look at the originals, or the microfilms (I don't know how easy it is for a researcher unknown to them to get on base). You can also use http://airforcehistoryindex.org/ to do a search of their holdings as of 2001. I never found that easy to use, so read the FAQs for how to obtain a free copy of their index for your computer.

For the National Archives, go to https://catalog.archives.gov/advancedsearch and put in a Group number in the Search Term field (xxx Fighter Group, or Bomb Group, or Bombardment Group). Put 18 in the Record Group field; and select Textual Materials in the Type of Archival Materials field. Click Search at the bottom, and wait. Their servers are slow. The College Park website itself is https://www.archives.gov/college-park

If you go to College Park you can copy documents by bringing a flat-bed scanner (never a sheet-fed scanner), or a digital camera, or the camera in your phone. They have camera stands for a camera or a phone, which you can borrow.

Enjoy!

Frank.

James S. 17th December 2019 01:42

8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
Frank, thank you very much. You have been most helpful.

James

edwest2 17th December 2019 01:49

Re: 8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
Many unit histories have been published over the years, some by the various Bomb Groups. I agree that contacting an archive is the best way to go. While the advantages to making information available on the internet are obvious, doing research with microfilms or actual paper documents is, while time consuming, superior.

Finally, for day, moth and year specific losses, there is fold3

Best,
Ed

Alex Smart 17th December 2019 04:23

Re: 8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
Hello Ed,
From your earlier post -

The Mighty Eighth: A History of the Units, Men and Machines of the US 8th Air Force by Roger A. Freeman

Is this the same book that I have, titled -

"The Mighty Eighth War Diary ", by Roger A.Freeman.

Or are they two different books ?

Alex

SteveR 17th December 2019 04:48

Re: 8th Air Force Bombing Missions August 17, 1942-March 31, 1943
 
I have:

The Mighty Eighth

The Mighty Eighth War Manual

The Mighty Eighth War Diary

Three different books, all by Roger A Freeman.


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