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GMichalski 15th February 2020 22:19

Il-2 losses on 16.12.42, 4 Panczel Imre claims
 
Can you add info of these claims with russian losses?

Panczel Imre, hungarian pilot
16.12.42 . Slt Il 2 . Me 109F4 1/1 FS Pilote URSS
4
16.12.42 . Slt Il 2 . Me 109F4 1/1 FS Pilote URSS
5
16.12.42 . Slt Il 2 . Me 109F4 1/1 FS Pilote URSS
6
16.12.42 . Slt Il 2 . Me 109F4 1/1 FS Pilote URSS
7

Podgarnoje / Kamenka sector

http://www.cieldegloire.com/008_panzel.php

regards

HGabor 16th February 2020 03:40

Re: Il-2 losses on 16.12.42, 4 Panczel Imre claims
 
B. Stenge Csaba, Hungarian AF researcher gives a different victory list for Pánczél Imre:

1-August 6, 1942 (Sov. fighter) Uriv?
2-October 30, 1942 (IL-2) Ostrogozsk-N
3-October 31, 1942 (IL-2) Alekseevka-E
4-October 31, 1942 (IL-2) Alekseevka-E
5-December 16, 1942 (IL-2) Pavlovsk-S
6-December 16, 1942 (IL-2) Pavlovsk-S

On December 16, 1942 the Soviets launched the "Little Saturn" offensive on the front of the 8th Italian Army. In the area the Hungarian fighters downed 4 IL-2s indeed, but only 2 were downed by Pánczél, not 4. The other 2 went down to his wingman, Bánlaky György fhdgy. (1Lt.) The IL-2s probably belonged to 17 VA, 3 SAK.

Gabor

GMichalski 16th February 2020 15:42

Re: Il-2 losses on 16.12.42, 4 Panczel Imre claims
 
hi,

many thanks for your info,

always help a lot,

kind regards


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