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schilling62nd 7th April 2020 16:24

Hans Philipp Fw 190 A/C at time of Death
 
I am having an artist draw a recreation of the air battle on October 8, 1943 when Bob Johnson 61st FS, 56th FG shot down Geschwaderkommodore Stab./JG 1 Hans Philipp.

I have read that at the time of his Death Hans Philipp was flying Fw 190 A-6 "Red 6" (Werknummer 530407—factory number). The Fw 190A-5Y "Minke Pinke" assigned in to him he flew before he arrived at JG 1. I cannot find any reference showing the profile or artwork for Red 6. I am trying to find out if the cowling was red & black, red & white or Black & yellow checkerboard?
Also if there were any other Gruppe or squadron emblems on the A/C. Was this Philipp's assigned A/C? In all the books I have on JG 1, none show this A/C which is odd knowing what a famous Ace he was? Also if anyone has any of the same info pertaining to his wingman during the battle Hans-Gunther Reinhardt?
Greatly Appreciated!
One reference I read had Mike Quirk from the 62nd FS, 56th FG shooting down
Philipp?

FalkeEins 10th April 2020 06:21

Re: Hans Philipp Fw 190 A/C at time of Death
 
Have you seen these pics, a few months before October though...
https://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2019/...lipp-ebay.html

schilling62nd 10th April 2020 13:32

Re: Hans Philipp Fw 190 A/C at time of Death
 
I appreciate the reply but that A/C is an Fw 190A-5 and he was shot down in
an Fw 190A-6 "Red 3". I can't believe I can't find one image of this A/C.
JG 1 A/C at the time had the checkerboard cowlings and it matched the number color, so I could assume it was a red & black checkerboard cowling with Red 3.
Don't know for sure and don't know the emblems. When I have an original
piece of art depicting a specific battle or time, I like it to be accurate.
Thanks

FalkeEins 10th April 2020 15:49

Re: Hans Philipp Fw 190 A/C at time of Death
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schilling62nd (Post 286331)
JG 1 A/C at the time had the checkerboard cowlings and it matched the number color

..are you aware then of Falk Boersch's comment's here

schilling62nd 10th April 2020 17:17

Re: Hans Philipp Fw 190 A/C at time of Death
 
That is interesting because he is saying all JG 1 squadrons had only black and white checker cowlings and no yellow or red.
That is odd because I have seen many original photos from that June 1943- October 1943 where it is clear that the check is dark and definitely not white and black. Now the photos are B&W but clearly the other color is way darker than white?

TigerTimon 10th April 2020 18:01

Re: Hans Philipp Fw 190 A/C at time of Death
 
Wasn't the checkerboard pattern 'historical' by that time? The pattern was not used anymore after misidentification of certain P-47 Thunderbolts (which also used a checkerboard pattern) by Flak gunners.


Kind regards,


Timon

schilling62nd 10th April 2020 18:13

Re: Hans Philipp Fw 190 A/C at time of Death
 
Checkerboard cowlings went until Dec 1943, then they went to Black and white long stripes.


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