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Andrey Kuznetsov 7th April 2020 23:24

Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Hello!

Engineer service of 329.IAD on 27.May.45 had listed the captured materiel on airfield Gratz.

Unfortunately the bulk of planes are listed without factory Nos, but the few of them - with Nos:

FW190 WNr.560027
FW190 WNr.350290
He177A-3 №35
He177A-3 №47

Sadly He177A-3s are listed with last two digits only.

Nothing special, but maybe it will fill some gaps.

Best regards,
Andrey

Merlin 8th April 2020 17:19

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Andrey,

could you check the spelling of the location again. There was no airfield Gratz or Gartz used by the Luftwaffe.

John Manrho 8th April 2020 20:55

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Garz Usedom?

Andrey Kuznetsov 8th April 2020 21:43

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Hello friends,

location is written as "Гартц" e.a. Gartz (I thouhgt before that it means Gartz am Oder but as it wasn't any airfield there ...).
329.IAD in the beginning of May based on Stargard, Maerkisch Friedland and Gabbert or Habbert [Габберт]
In the documents of the end of May Peenemünde is mentioned so 329.IAD apparently rebased in NW direction and Garz Usedom is possible.

Best regards,
Andrey

S Sheflin 8th April 2020 21:58

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Hello everyone,
I know little about the movement of Soviet forces late in WWII. However, I do know that they occupied most of Austria; only relinquishing ownership to the British in June-July, 1945. I believe that one of the airfields turned over to the British was Graz-Thalerhof, Austria (coordinates 46.988333 15.437500). Is this a possible answer to our question?
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Andrey Kuznetsov 8th April 2020 22:07

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Hello Steve,

Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 286258)
Graz-Thalerhof, Austria (coordinates 46.988333 15.437500). Is this a possible answer to our question?

Apparently no, see the answer above

Best regards,
Andrey

Marc-André Haldimann 9th April 2020 04:01

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Andrey,

Could the location be Garz, Usedom ?

Cheers
Marc

Andrey Kuznetsov 9th April 2020 09:52

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Hell Marc,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 286270)

Could the location be Garz, Usedom ?

Yes, see above.

Cheers,
Andrey

Merlin 9th April 2020 14:36

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
If Garz at Usedom is the correct location than the FW190A-8 WNr.560027 and FW190A-9 WNr.350290 were from IV./JG 51 which was there for a few days during early April.

It looks like that the two He177A-3 №35 and He177A-3 №47 were old aircraft, which were left behind when Erprobungskommando 36 and Ergänzungsgruppe He 177 left Garz during September/October 1944.

Larry deZeng 9th April 2020 15:20

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Another possibility, but probably a remote one:

Rechlin-Lärz.

L.

S Sheflin 9th April 2020 16:11

Re: Captured German planes in Gartz 27.May.1945
 
Hello Gerhard,
First, thank you for your continued input over the years.
Not to niggle, but you have the versions reversed: WNr. 560027 is actually an Ar-War-built Fw 190 A-9 and WNr. 350290 is an Arb.Gem.WFG-built Fw 190 A-8.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin


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