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Uwe Benkel 2nd June 2020 11:56

He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
Hello,

looking for any information about this aircraft and the crew.

Crashlanded in a field close to Seifersbach, near Mittweida/Saxony, Germany.

Probably crashed 4.6.1940, not sure.

Thanks


Uwe Benkel
Historical Research

Tom Willis 2nd June 2020 16:10

Re: He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
I do not have any info regarding this accident - Unit - crew but the aircraft was sent to Reparatur Werk Erfurt on 09.07.40 as under repair. Then I have this at FFS(C)22 from 12.04.41

jim norton 4th June 2020 11:00

Re: He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
hi,

the canopy is interesting - former test-machine?

all the best
jim

Rottler 4th June 2020 14:31

Re: He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
According to the forum www.geschichtsspuren.de the photos show the He 111 V9 Werk-Nr. 1807, the former He 111 B D-AIZU. Later converted to a training plane, coded PK+AR. This plane was destroyed on 20 May 1942 (FFS (C) 22 Oels, engine failure, crash at Hellerau near Dresden, 3 men dead).

Regards
Leo

AndyMa 4th June 2020 19:31

Re: He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
Did this also have registration D-AQOX at some point?
Andy

Uwe Benkel 4th June 2020 20:20

Re: He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
Hello and thanks for your posts.

Is there a chance to find out who was the crew and what happened to them?

Best wishes

Uwe

Stig Jarlevik 4th June 2020 20:37

Re: He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
Somehow the belly landing does not seem to square with 3 individuals being killed, but perhaps they just had bad luck....

B Rgds
Stig

RT 4th June 2020 21:37

Re: He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
The loss on 20.05.42, is 95 % "big", so not what shows the picture here, further the plane was a P model, nd Wn changed to 1707 ...no STKZ given,

Rémi

Rottler 4th June 2020 22:17

Re: He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyMa (Post 289835)
Did this also have registration D-AQOX at soem point?
Andy

Hello Andy,

the original code of the He 111 B Werknummer 1807 was D-AQOX. After the modification to a full-view cockpit the plane was renamed He 111 V9 and coded D-AIZU.
Source:
Thread "Absturz oder Notlandung einer Heinkel He 111 in Sachsen zwischen 1938 und 1940(?)" in www.geschichtsspuren.de , user Paulchen from 3 Nov 2018.

Regards
Leo

Stig Jarlevik 4th June 2020 22:52

Re: He 111 "PK + AR" - 1940
 
Thanks Guys

Now hang on a moment please
I follow that WNr 1807 was a B model registred D-AQOX, rebuilt as a P-model (perhaps the prototype?) the V9 and received a new civil registration D-AIZU

However if Rémi is correct and PK+AR was 95% destroyed and not WNr 1807 but 1707 then I want to know where the connection between D-AIZU and PK+AR is. The aircraft in the photos is certainly nowhere near 95% destroyed. It is a quite reasonable belly landing and I don't think we even see 50% damage here.
Did PK+AR have two crashes? One seen here and one terminal in 1942?
Or is PK+AR WNr 1707 and not at all connected to V9?

Cheers
Stig


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