Ju 188A-3LT Werk Nummer question, part 2
 

Hi!

I did a small compilation on all known II./ and III./KG26 Ju188A-3LT's (and a few A-2s) whereabouts at the end of WWII in Europe.

The totals (I found) were as follows:
- lost during early 1945, total 8 a/c
- captured outside Norway, total 6 a/c
- captured at Vaernes, total 6 a/c (of which one from Stab/KG26)
- captured at Gardermoen, total 26 a/c
That is a grand total of 46 a/c of which three are A-2s.

As mentioned in earlier thread, Siebel in Halle completed a total of 62 A-3LT's (30 in July, 24 in August and 8 in September 1944). And another 6 were converted from A-2s.


Can anyone help me fill the gaps in the following listings?

Foremost, I would like to know the complete listing of a/c captured at Gardermoen.

Thanks in advance!

BR, Juha


W.Nr. - Staffel - Coding - Date - Location


1) Planes lost in combat or accidents:

190317 - 8. - 1H+HS - 12.1.45 - lost at Kvaløyseter, Flatanger Nord-Trønde 190330 - ?. - 1H+__ - 30.3.45 - lost at Høknesvatnet, Namsos
190346 - 8. - 1H+ES - 16.2.45 - lost at Onsberget, Jevnaker
190349 - 8. - 1H+GS - 23.2.45 - lost at Lurudalen, Snåsa
190604 - ?. - 1H+__ - 23.2.45 - lost at Sea
190xxx - Sb - 1H+BD - 30.3.45 - lost at Rostu, Sunndal
190xxx - 5.? - F1+HP - 21.4.45 - lost at Sea
190xxx - 4. - F1+LM - 21.4.45 - lost at Sea


2) Planes captured after early May exit flights from Norway:

190335 - 9. - 1H+AT - 2.5.45 flight from Vaernes to Britain
190xxx - 9. - 1H+NT - 2.5.45 flight from Vaernes to SE of Oldenburg
190327 - 9. - 1H+GT - x.5.45 captured at Lubeck-Blankensee
190xxx - 7. - 1H+KR - x.5.45 captured at Lubeck-Blankensee
190339 - 8. - 1H+KS - x.5.45 captured at Copenhagen
180485 - ?. - 1H+__ - x.5.45 captured at Sylt (A-2)


3) Planes captured at Trondheim/Vaernes:

160064 - ? - 1H+__ - captured at Vaernes (A-2)
180475 - ? - 1H+__ - captured at Vaernes (A-2)
190311 - ? - 1H+__ - captured at Vaernes
190322 - ? - 1H+__ - captured at Vaernes
190324 - Sb - 1H+AA - captured at Vaernes
190332 - ? - 1H+__ - captured at Vaernes


4) Planes captured at Oslo/Gardermoen:

180461 - ? - 1H+__ - x.5.45 captured at Gardermoen (A-2)
190326 - ? - 1H+__ - x.5.45 captured at Gardermoen
190336 - 8. - 1H+BS - x.5.45 captured at Gardermoen
190342 - Sb - 1H+BD - x.5.45 captured at Gardermoen
190607 - ?. - 1H+__ - x.5.45 captured at Gardermoen
190608 - 7. -1H+BR - x.5.45 captured at Gardermoen
1903x9 - ?. - 1H+__ - x.5.45 captured at Gardermoen
190xx5 - 9. - 1H+FT - x.5.45 captured at Gardermoen

Re: Ju 188A-3LT Werk Nummer question, part 2
 

Only III./KG 26 had Ju 188A-3 LT. II/KG 26 had Ju 88 LT.

Junker

Re: Ju 188A-3LT Werk Nummer question, part 2
 

Junker,

Yes, you are right. I mistook the two a/c on the loss register as being from 4. and 5. Staffels - but actually they were III/KG26 a/c with their old KG76 codes still on.

From the Michael Holm´s pages (http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/kg26.htm) we also learn, that:
- Stab/KG26 received a total of 1 Ju188A-3LT and
- III/KG26 a total of 49 Ju188A-3LT as Newbuilds until 31.12.1944.

So my previous total above captures 46 of these, leaving the fate of at least 4 as mysteries. (That also leaves 12 of the 62 Newbuilt a/c completely unaccounted for.)

BR, Juha

Re: Ju 188A-3LT Werk Nummer question, part 2
 

From the records of Leitende Ingenieur/Gen.d.Dt.Lw.in Norwegen, the following can be said about K.G.26 at the time of capitulation:

Stabsstaffel K.G.26 at Drontheim-Vaernes had one Ju 188A-3 on strength, W.Nr. 190324 + a He 111H-6 W.Nr. 7256.

The III./K.G.26 had moved south to Gardermoen north of Oslo and had the following 26 Ju 188A-3 on strength at Gardermoen: xx0346, xx0434, xx0508, xx5252, 160072, 180430, 180461, 180488, 190312, 190316, 190323, 190325, 190326, 190336, 190342, 190343, 190404, 190406, 190408, 190409, 190603, 190605, 190606, 190607, 190608 and 280225.

5 Ju 188A-3 left behind at Drontheim-Vaernes by III./K.G.26: 160064, 180475,190311, 190322, 190332.

The entire II./K.G.26 had 20 Ju 88A-17 at Gardermoen, 4 Ju 88A-17 at Drontheim-Vaernes, 3 Ju 88A-17 at Bodø and 2 Ju 88A-17 at Bardufoss.

According to the RLM aircraft procurement programme Nr. 227 of 15. December 1944, both the Ju 188A-3 and Ju 88A-17 were aircraft conversions with 62 + 6 and 364 conversions repectively. The final two Ju 188A-3 conversions were scheduled for delivery in December 1944.

I have used the Werk Nummer and aircraft designations as used in the original Luftwaffe reports. All these aircraft were destroyed on site by RAF from August to October 1945.

Re: Ju 188A-3LT Werk Nummer question, part 2
 

Seaplanes,

Thanks a lot!

BR, Juha

Re: Ju 188A-3LT Werk Nummer question, part 2
 

Seaplanes,

Would you please also post the W.Nr. listing for the II./K.G.26 Ju 88s if they were included in the records you listed for Norway.

ArtieBob

Re: Ju 188A-3LT Werk Nummer question, part 2
 

The Ju 88A-17 of II./K.G.26 were distributed as follows on 9. May 1945:
Gardermoen: 0559, 0691, 0804, 1307, 1482, 3795, 5254, 5349, 140321, 141268, 300125, 300660, 550510, 550860, 801377.
Vaernes: 801610, 822039, 882897, 812938.
Bodö: 144692, 550726, 800634.
Bardufoss: 550912, 550963.
It is a discrepancy somewhere in the reports. The total number of A-17's at Gardermoen is in one report given as 20, but only 16 Werk Nummern were finally listed. It may be that the four aircraft at Drontheim-Vaernes was counted in with those at Gardermoen. The planes left at Bodö and Bardufoss in Northern Norway, were most likely unserviceable.