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dsetzer 8th November 2020 17:33

Need Help Identifying German Fighter Squadron
 
On February 19, 1944 the B-25 bombers of the 321st Bomb Group flew in support of the Anzio beachhead. The formation was attacked by a large group of enemy fighters, and one ship was shot down.

Here is the description from the war diary:

"Groups of 6/8 to 15/20 E/A attacked in pairs after leaving target. ME-109’s, FW-190’s and one ME-210 and Vacchi 202 reported—ME’s in majority. Most attacked from rear, and some ME-109’s attacked near the target after dive-bombing. Seven ME-109’s and two FW-190’s destroyed. Two ME-109’s probably destroyed."

An historian is writing a book about the incident and would like to know if anyone can identify the German squadron(s) that were involved.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

sidney 8th November 2020 18:25

Re: Need Help Identifying German Fighter Squadron
 
According to Christopher Shores and others' A History of the Mediterranean Air War 1940 - 45, Volume IV, pages 537 - 541, the 321 BG (i.e., 446th, 447th and 448th BS) had its worst day since the beginning of operations, a year earlier, losing seven B25s aircraft that day.

Five B25s were claimed by the Flak, and three by II./JG 77 (4. and 6. Staffel), equipped with the Bf 109 G-6s. So, there was some over-claiming there, either by the Flak or by the fighters.

The American bomber gunners seemingly overstated their effort, with only one Bf 109 G-6 and one Fw 190 A-6 of II./SG 4 that may have been lost to the bombers defensive fire.

The rest of the German losses that day were attributed to the Spitfires, collisions and accidents.

Regards,
Sinisa

Stig Jarlevik 8th November 2020 18:28

Re: Need Help Identifying German Fighter Squadron
 
Hi Dan

Not sure from where you get that only one B-25 was shot down during the morning mission to attack troops in the Cisterna/Anzio area.

The unit's various squadrons lost five B-25s to either enemy fighters or enemy Flak (one seemingly late afternoon)

German B-25 claims were submitted by
Flak: five aircraft
JG 77: three aircraft (one by 4.Staffeln and two by 6. Staffeln)

321 BG also had the extremely bad luck to loose two aircraft which vanished during ferrying. A very, very sad day for this unit.

Source: MAW Vol 4

B Rgds
Stig

PS: You got me there Sinisa :)

sidney 8th November 2020 19:03

Re: Need Help Identifying German Fighter Squadron
 
Stig,

Just about I did :). However, it is the same source and same conclusion, so either comments can stand on their own.

Regards,
Sinisa

dsetzer 8th November 2020 19:58

Re: Need Help Identifying German Fighter Squadron
 
Thank you all so much for the help. I should have specified that the War Diary I quoted was specifically for the 446th Bomb Squadron of the 321st Bomb Group. It did not cover losses in the other squadrons.

The historian I am helping is focused on the loss of a particular ship 41-30551 "Pink Lady" MACR-2577 on the morning mission on Feb 19, 1944.

Stig Jarlevik 8th November 2020 20:42

Re: Need Help Identifying German Fighter Squadron
 
Dan

There are a few who likes to try and identify who shot down who during aerial combats. Not me. I usually find that too speculative unless there were very few aircraft involved.

In this case you already have the units
4./JG 77 and 6./JG 77

If you want the name of the three pilots involved, please PM me.

Cheers
Stig

Johannes 9th November 2020 09:48

Re: Need Help Identifying German Fighter Squadron
 
Luftwaffe fighters claimed three B-25's:-

6./JG 77 Lt Joachim Ahlert 0942 hrs 3000 metres.
4./JG 77 Uffz Helmut Moller 0950 hrs 2500 metres
6./JG 77 Ofw Franz Nägele 0950 hrs tief

Kind Regards

Johannes

P.S II./JG 77 also claimed five Spitfires, and 7./JG 53 three Spitfires, but all much later in the day.

Nick Beale 9th November 2020 10:36

Re: Need Help Identifying German Fighter Squadron
 
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Jochen Prien's JG 77 history has a lengthy account of this action. Here's what I have from ULTRA.


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