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Norbert Schuchbauer 1st September 2006 17:04

Ju 87 D-3 "Nacht" "VII" details?
 
Hi all,
can anybody enlighten me regarding the following Ju 87 types:

Ju 87 D-3 "Nacht" "VII"
Ju 87 D-5 "Nacht" "VII"
Ju 87 G-2 "VII-C"

Thanks in advance,

Norbert

Dénes Bernád 1st September 2006 20:10

Re: Ju 87 D-3 "Nacht" "VII" details?
 
I found a few similar "mysterious" post-fixes for the Henschel Hs 129, too.

Could the code refer to the radio set type, i.e. FuG VII?

"Nacht" is obviously "night".

Nick Beale 1st September 2006 23:21

Re: Ju 87 D-3 "Nacht" "VII" details?
 
Thanks for the suggestion on the "VII" which seems a strong possibility.

The D-3 and D-5 (N) or (Nacht) designations appear in loss reports from some Nachtschlachtgruppen, for instance:

30.1.45
2./NSG 4
Ju 87D-5 "Nacht VII", WNr. 131392, 1K+AK
Feindflug Böhmischdorf (71199)
Ursache unbekannt, nicht feindbeobachtet, 99% Beschädigung
tot: (FF) Ofhr. Vogel, Franz; (Bf) Uffz. Plank, Johann

So I suspect it just denoted the aircraft was fitted for night operations (e.g. exhaust shrouds) but it doesn't appear in every case. It may even have been dependent on who filed the loss report wheter tht level of detail was included.

Norbert Schuchbauer 2nd September 2006 02:51

Re: Ju 87 D-3 "Nacht" "VII" details?
 
My information is from Luftflottenkommado 6. Dates are for February 1945. I agree with the "Nacht" explanation it makes sence, but the VII is still mysterious.

I have some losses of Ju 87 G-2 "VII-C" for 10.(Pz.)/SG 77.

One even more strange is the loss of a Ju 87 G-2 "XVI" (Z S) "VII-C" of 10.(Pz.)/SG 77

Any ideas on those?

Norbert

George Hopp 2nd September 2006 05:29

Re: Ju 87 D-3 "Nacht" "VII" details?
 
Stating that the "VII" is for the FuG VII is highly dubious as that radio was superseded by the FuG 16 about 1942. But then, the FuG 16 ZS is a valid radio set, so just perhaps ....

Norbert Schuchbauer 2nd September 2006 17:00

Re: Ju 87 D-3 "Nacht" "VII" details?
 
Well thanks George, I think this a very interesting thought.

Norbert

George Hopp 10th September 2006 03:00

Re: Ju 87 D-3 "Nacht" "VII" details?
 
The FuG 16 ZS Radio was used by ground attack a/c because its frequency range had been moved up, from the FuG 16Z's 38,5 - 42.3 MHz to 40.3 - 44.7 MHz, to enable it to communicate with ground units. So, those numbers and letters within the quote marks are becoming more and more reasonable as ID markers for the radio type carried.

Norbert Schuchbauer 10th September 2006 05:44

Re: Ju 87 D-3 "Nacht" "VII" details?
 
Thank you very much for the reply George, this will really shed some light on the mystery.

Regards,

Norbert


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