Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

Hello
I'm looking for the crash location of this B-17 (42-30104;384 BG) during the raid on 12/08/43

Michel

Re: Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

Guess the serial # is incorrect.

Joerg

Re: Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

If 42-30194 is the correct one -

42-30194 / We Ain’t Scared
Delivered Cheyenne 24/4/43; Gore Fd 25/4/43; Smoky Hill 12/5/43; Tinker 25/5/43; Smoky Hill 29/5/43; Dow Field 1/6/43. Assigned 91BG Bassingbourn 15/6/43; transferred 335BS/95BG [OE-O] Horham 16/6/43 (8 missions). „WE AIN’T SCARED“. Missing in Action Bonn 12 August 1943 – enemy aircraft shot out #4; crashed Kattenbos, three miles S of Lommel, Belgium. Missing Air Crew Report – MACR 253.

Re: Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

Hello Michel;

according to the Namentliche Verlustmeldung AV 318 and German documents (Abschussnummer/casualty no. KU 8) the crash location of the B-17 F-85 BO 42-30104 was Haus Ölgarten near Hennef/Sieg.

Regards
Leo

Re: Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

MACR 253 for 42-30194 is here:

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/90890023

Given the crew make-up, this appears to be a lead ship.

Re: Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

Thank you very much!
Michel

Re: Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

Hi Michel. Do you mean 42-3104 ( 547BS/384BG "RAIDER") lost 12/8/43 nr. Hennef ? = MACR 286, but MACR says 42-30104***********


According to Roger Freeman 42-30104 remained in the USA; 42-30194 "WE AIN'T SCARED" ( lost same date) was 95BG as Joerg said.


Nick

Re: Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

There is a probleme:it's 30104? or 3104?

I have five B-17 lost of 384°/
42-3231 "Erfstadt"
42-30046 "Gelsenkirchen"
42-29686 "Koningswinter"
42-5806"Vollmershoven"

and so? 42-30104 or 42-3104?

Re: Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

B-17 42-30104
Delivered Cheyenne 10/4/43; Hobbs 19/4/43; Ft Sumner 21/4/43; Hobbs 6/5/43; Mather 18/6/43; Hobbs 11/7/43; 12/8/43 problems with 547BS/384BG (?); 3017 BU Hobbs 8/11/44; Reconstruction Finance Corporation (sold for scrap metal in USA) Altus 4/9/45.

Source: Dave Osborne, B-17 Fortress Master Log*

Confusing, ain't it.

Re: Crash location 384 B Grp B-17 42-30104
 

I was looking at the mission reports for the 384th on this date = 42-3104.
It was named "Raider" and was ex-94th.
These serials can be a nightmare sometimes.



Nick

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