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Chris Goss 31st December 2021 11:22

Ju 86 Bomber Units September 1939
 
It is believed that a very small number of Ju 86s were operational over Poland in the bomber role. One source says with III./KG 1 but this was not formed until December 1939. Can anyone confirm any of this?

Mikael Olrog 31st December 2021 15:05

Re: Ju 86 Bomber Units September 1939
 
There were no operational Ju 86 over Poland. If I remember correctly there was a training staffel/gruppe of KG 1 that still had the Ju 86 but they flew no missions.

Chris Goss 31st December 2021 15:50

Re: Ju 86 Bomber Units September 1939
 
Mikael-thanks this accords with a photo I have which shows V4+DW

Nick Beale 31st December 2021 18:17

Re: Ju 86 Bomber Units September 1939
 
There are KTBs of elements of KG 1 on the German Docs in Russia site covering the Polish campaign: Akten 560, 561 & 562. There might be some clues there.

Merlin 1st January 2022 14:27

Re: Ju 86 Bomber Units September 1939
 
The I./KG 152 operated a mixture of Ju 86G and He 111H during summer 1939. The unit was subordinated to KG 1 as IV.Gruppe and therefore flew with the unit code "V4". A few missions were flown by the unit during the PC, but only with the Heinkel.

On 18.09.39 the Gruppe became absorbed by KG 1 as II./KG 1.

Franek Grabowski 2nd January 2022 01:26

Re: Ju 86 Bomber Units September 1939
 
Despite numerous accounts there is no evidence of Ju 86s being operational in Poland. There are some intriguing accounts, however, including a one of a well known modeller. They mentioned eg. old type of gunner gondola. I wonder if those aircraft actually were He 111E which saw some use in Poland.

Chris Goss 2nd January 2022 12:20

Re: Ju 86 Bomber Units September 1939
 
Thanks Gerhard. This helps explain why some of II./KG 1's aircraft carried IV Gruppe codes


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