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Tim O. 6th January 2022 13:32

Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
Happy New Year to all

Apologies for the error in the thread title - I think spell-check got me.

Does anyone happen to know the rank and full name of Bordfunker 'Pohl', who flew with Karl-Hermann Lion during the Battle of France and Battle of Britain in 1940? In France the unit was still designated I.(St)/186(T) but this would change to III./StG 1 in the summer of 1940.

Any help much appreciated

Matti Salonen 6th January 2022 13:48

Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
In III/St.G 1 was:
1941-04-14, 7./St.G 1, Ju 87 R-2, 5874, J9+CH, Bei Tobruk
Flugzeugführer Lt Martinz, Hans, gefangen
Bordfunker Uffz Pohl, Helmut, gefangen
Notlandung jenseits. Bruch 100 %.

Maybe your Pohl?

Matti

Chris Goss 6th January 2022 14:13

Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
Lion was Ia of III./StG 1 and Lt Hans Martinz the Adj. 6 Jan 41 Lion was reported in hospital so it is probable that Pohl was flying with Martinz on 14 Apr 41. Lion took command of 9./StG 1 after the death of Oblt Ulrich Heinze on 9 May 41. I./186 became III./StG 1 around 2 Jul 40

Stig Jarlevik 6th January 2022 16:12

Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 314716)
In III/St.G 1 was:
1941-04-14, 7./St.G 1, Ju 87 R-2, 5874, J9+CH, Bei Tobruk
Flugzeugführer Lt Martinz, Hans, gefangen
Bordfunker Uffz Pohl, Helmut, gefangen
Notlandung jenseits. Bruch 100 %.

Maybe your Pohl?

Matti

Matti/Chris

MAW Vol 1 page 158 says this belonged to Stab III./St.G. 1

They also have three further Stukas lost or damaged, without giving any WNr.
Are they unknown?
1) T6+JM shot down, crew POW
2) nothing except gunner Lt Erich Hummel baled out and became POW
3) nothing except crash landed and Uffz Heinrich Kroll WIA

Do you by any chance have any further details such as WNr?
Cheers
Stig

Matti Salonen 6th January 2022 16:48

Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
II/St.G 2 lost:
1941-04-14, 4./St.G 2, Ju 87 R-2, 6048, T6+JM, 15 km südwestlich Tobruk
Flugzeugführer Fw Rass, Hinrich, gefangen
Bordfunker Uffz Weber, Fritz, verletzt
Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
1941-04-14, 5./St.G 2, Ju 87 R-2, Tobruk
Bordfunker Uffz Krell, Heinrich, verletzt
Luftkampf mit Jägern. Bruch ? %.
1941-04-14, Stab II/St.G 2, Ju 87 R-2, 6037, Tobruk
Bordfunker Lt Hummel, Erich, gefangen
Luftkampf mit Jägern. Bruch 5 %. Hummerl mit Fallschirm abgesprungen.

Matti

Stig Jarlevik 6th January 2022 17:13

Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
Excellent details Matti

Once again I lift my hat off to the almost unbelievable details you have.:)

Thank You
Stig

TigerTimon 6th January 2022 18:00

Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
Matti's database must be for TOCH members what Görings wine cellar was for Lewis Nixon (1918 – 1995). Isn't it? :p

Tim O. 6th January 2022 18:17

Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
Thanks Matti and Chris, that is a great help.

Col Bruggy 6th January 2022 18:31

Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 314716)
In III/St.G 1 was:
1941-04-14, 7./St.G 1, Ju 87 R-2, 5874, J9+CH, Bei Tobruk
Flugzeugführer Lt Martinz, Hans, gefangen
Bordfunker Uffz Pohl, Helmut, gefangen
Notlandung jenseits. Bruch 100 %.

Maybe your Pohl?

Matti

Hello,

Re: Martinz and Pohl:

Enter: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/Sear...archItems.aspx
Enter individual names for each person in 'Keywords' box. You should get:

Hans Martinz - two (2) hits, both digitised.

Helmut Pohl - three (3) hits, 2 digitised.

Use same method for other mentioned POWs in this thread.

Col.

VtwinVince 6th January 2022 19:42

Re: Oberleutnant Karl-Hartmann Lion's Bordfunker 'Pohl' in 1940
 
You mean Karl-Hermann Lion?


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