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Courtois Laurent 29th January 2022 11:26

Disappearance of Hans-Georg Lohmeyer
 
Hello,
does anyone know the exact place of death of Lieutenant Hans-Georg Lohmeyer of SG77 or SG1?
We read on the "trace of war" site: October 22nd, 1944 (Groß-Garden/Gumbinnen, Germany), but Gross Garden is in Masuria (Poland) and on the "aircrewremembered" site: "
KIA 22 October, 1944 on a mission against targets east of Gumbinnen, when his Fw 190 was shot down near Gross-Gauden East Prussia by enemy fighters, burning on impact. He was buried at Salau Cemetery near Insterburg".
There is a Gross Gross-Gauden in East Prussia, (Groß Gaudischkehmen until 1938 and on Soviet maps), but it is 24 km west of Gumbinnen. Which doesn't match.

For lack of place, the time could help me to discriminate among the 19 FW 190 claimed by the units of the 1st VA.

This question interests me because the late CJ Ehrengardt, in his exceptional work of 1988, never equaled in quality since, hypothesized that would have been shot down by Versini du Normandie-Niemen. This seems unlikely to me, for several reasons.

If anyone has any information, we could compare it with the Soviet archives.

Good weekend to all

Luc Vervoort 29th January 2022 11:51

Re: Disappearance of Hans-Georg Lohmeyer
 
Hi,

I'll contact via pm as it appears to me that is not possible to attach a document.

Best regards

Luc

uschu4711 29th January 2022 14:06

Re: Disappearance of Hans-Georg Lohmeyer
 
Hello

can it be that there is/was a fault by translation/ the place? reason
GroßGaudischkehmen - Großgauden
someone read the U as R ? ...and came out to Großgarden in Ostprussia

regards

Teresa Maria 29th January 2022 20:02

Re: Disappearance of Hans-Georg Lohmeyer
 
DeZeng and Stankey mention Gumbinnen:
LOHMEYER, Hans-Georg. (DOB: 25.03.19 in Brilon). (R, DKG). 13.12.42 Uffz., 2./Schl.G. 1.
01.02.43 Uffz., awarded the Ehrenpokal. 28.04.43 Fw., awarded DKG, III./Schl.G. 1. 06.07.43 Fw.,
2./Schl.G.1. 04.08.43 Fw., 1./Schl.G. 1. 15.07.44 Lt., 5./SG 77. 06.10.44 Lt., awarded Ritterkreuz
on completion of 600 combat missions, Stafü 6./SG 77. 22.10.44 Lt., 6./SG 77 KIA – Fw 190 F-8
(6+) shot down in air combat over Gumbinnen in East Prussia. Buried at Salau near Insterburg.

ZhekaB 29th January 2022 23:07

Re: Disappearance of Hans-Georg Lohmeyer
 
Hello, Laurent!
Großgauden (GroßGaudischkehmen) - placed 10 km ESE to Insterburg. In my oppinion this place is good for Perrin's claim FW.190 Judtschen (It is 4 km E to Großgauden (GroßGaudischkehmen).
Please tell if you will found definate place where Lohmeyer was killed.


Courtois Laurent 30th January 2022 13:52

Re: Disappearance of Hans-Georg Lohmeyer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZhekaB (Post 315575)
Hello, Laurent!
Großgauden (GroßGaudischkehmen) - placed 10 km ESE to Insterburg. In my oppinion this place is good for Perrin's claim FW.190 Judtschen (It is 4 km E to Großgauden (GroßGaudischkehmen).
Please tell if you will found definate place where Lohmeyer was killed.


Hello ZhekaB,

In reality this day the soviets accreditted a victory to Perrin à kilometer south of Gumbinnen. The French canceled this victory, to create a new one for shared by Lemare and Manceau.
Perrin should share the victory of Genès who had shoot down a FW-190 15 km East of Gumbinnen aoocording soviet's reports (perhaps Judtschen).
Then Lohmeyer could be shooted down by Genès betwen 13h10 and 14h40. Yhe best, would be to have te hour of the death of HG Lohmeyer, because the victory's record of the Normandy-Niemen did not consoder to be a heavy proove.

Laurent COURTOIS

Karsten 5th February 2022 14:55

Re: Disappearance of Hans-Georg Lohmeyer
 
Hallo,

its the same place
till 1938: Groß Gaudischkehmen,
1938–1946 Großgauden, Kreis Gumbinnen
Now Krasnopoljanskoje

Regards Rüdiger

Nick Beale 5th February 2022 16:41

Re: Disappearance of Hans-Georg Lohmeyer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc Vervoort (Post 315549)
Hi,

it appears to me that is not possible to attach a document.

Look at this thread, post #6.

ZhekaB 18th July 2022 20:06

Re: Disappearance of Hans-Georg Lohmeyer
 
In Fhr. Beyerlein's flugbuch there is entry for 12:00-12:45 (14:00-14:45) sortie with note about the death of Lohmeyer.

So, a lot of possible claimers.


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