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Max Wünsche 9th March 2022 05:40

Aircraft Panels - Authentication
 
Hello to all.

I am wanting to see if anyone has any ideas as to the authenticity of these Luftwaffe Panels.

One being a vertical stabiliser / tail swastika and the other a squadron insignia.

Is anyone able to narrow down what aircraft these may have come from given construction / rivet details on the front and reverse of each panel?

Please see images below and I am most grateful to all who can help narrow down either the authenticity and/or likely aircraft they originate from.

https://i.postimg.cc/GtCzmYJq/123411374-1-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/pL4fdzPz/123411374-2-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/6qp2cp9B/123411374-3-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/RFXqWxwy/123411374-4-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/T2sYF90V/123411374-5-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/26KrpkQk/123411374-6-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/3xTyf1rL/123411374-7-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/CxcFCsRn/123411374-8-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/HkkmL86Y/123411374-9-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/cJVGT90C/123411374-10-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/g0hTcYbc/123411374-11-x.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/rsfhZsxj/a1e64b...3f00f0e307.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/k49fnKyw/ba9bb9...3f00f0df68.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/9Mp1z082/ec5298...3f00f0de1f.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/SR1r75bt/4b239a...3f00f0e1ce.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/4x95VBLB/55e2ad...3f00f0dd1d.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/3wQZBmz7/88940d...3f00f0e0ab.jpg

Max Wünsche 9th March 2022 05:45

Re: Aircraft Panels - Authentication
 
And here is the squadron insignia panel.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZR731dsW/e45f7b...3f00eb03ba.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/qqWK7dT0/e74316...3f00eb0a23.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/BvJKbgd8/a38cc4...3f00eb07e8.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/3N0yVbDq/adfbde...3f00eb056e.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MTvbZ5Q7/b5bee4...3f00eb0c84.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/J7Hc9Tmm/b8efea...3f00eb11a5.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/JhdZFX2G/4b599d...3f00eb08fb.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/zfMH7ryh/65c4a2...3f00eb131c.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MGhXRmLb/134c0d...3f00eb06a8.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MpgzrKYz/721ab4...3f00eb0d9f.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/0NvBNTkp/850e5a...3f00eb0f1f.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/N0bpjLPc/687418...3f00eb0b6b.jpg

harrison987 10th March 2022 02:58

Re: Aircraft Panels - Authentication
 
The first panel was on auction recently. I DO NOT like it. Especially the forced "wear" that is in 3 or 4 spots.

It looks like someone took some sandpaper to it to make it look worn. Paint on reverse is the wrong color

Backside resembles Ju88 or Ju87.

Could be an original panel that has been re-painted...but I specifically did not bid on it, as I do not think it is original paint.

2nd one looks good.

I do not recognize the back side, but 100% German and original.

Max Wünsche 13th March 2022 02:46

Re: Aircraft Panels - Authentication
 
Apologies for the delay in responding.

Many thanks for your feedback and for sure I had the same doubts about the Swaz panel as some of the wear looked strange and similar to that of known fake panels I have encountered. Like you have said, possibly a real panel but with either new paint and wear added post-war...?

I did however purchase the panel with the Nachtjagdgeschwader insignia.

I just had a contact I know who restores Luftwaffe aircraft confirm that it is from a Me110 and not a Ju88 heavy night fighter as I had initially thought.

Thankyou for the other messages I had received with feedback also!

Cheers.

VtwinVince 13th March 2022 17:14

Re: Aircraft Panels - Authentication
 
I also like the second piece, too bad it's fragmentary.

schwarze-man 15th March 2022 09:19

Re: Aircraft Panels - Authentication
 
Yes, The Swastika panel is difficult. No scale. I think that is one that would need considerable study and examination to authenticate.
Yes, the crashed piece looks genuine IMO. Looks like Messerschmitt constructional details. Complexity of the piece helps, with lots of details. I would expect that the exact constructional reference is possible with this and, I would hope that there is some other provenance of the original aircraft?
Cheers

SM


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