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yasig 3rd October 2006 11:58

JU-87 Stuka crashed at Novi Sad (Ujvidek-Neusatz)1943.
 
Hi,
By pure luck i meet old Yugoslav pilot and acquire two photos from 1943, taken at summer at Novi Sad ( Ujvidek/Neusatz) citty beach "Strand" at Danube river.
In this time, its Hungarian ocupation zone of Yugoslav Kingdom.

There is shown Ju-87 Stuka of unidentified unit, crashed while low passing over the local beach bathers, and hitting the high voltage power line and its carrying cable over the Danube.
The electric shock kill the pilot( and posibble another crew member) instanteously, while Stuka remained hanged on the cable.

Fiirst two photos were from my collection and third one was published at AEROMAGAZIN Special 2/3-1991-April 1941 , incorrectly captioned as Shot Down Stuka at April 12th 1941, while attacking "DRAVA" monitor ship near the Celarevo village.
Checking the details on the photo, especialy river bank on photo No2 and No3, there is positive identification that its the same Stuka, from 1943.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...viSad-43_1.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...viSad-43_2.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...d-43_AMG91.jpg

So, here is my question. I'm interested to determine this stuka code, unit,crew members and date.
At Novi Sad airfield was based lot of Luftwaffe and Hungarian units, but have no info of any Stuka units in Hungarian colours.

Any help from 12 o'clock members?

Thanx and regards,
AEROPOXY-YASIG

Schenck 3rd October 2006 12:24

Re: JU-87 Stuka crashed at Novi Sad (Ujvidek-Neusatz)1943.
 
It might be the one lost on 20/08/1943, from III/SG 151, listed as hitting the obstacle at Novi Sad, both crew members killed.

Vozdra

yasig 3rd October 2006 12:47

Re: JU-87 Stuka crashed at Novi Sad (Ujvidek-Neusatz)1943.
 
Fala Schenck,

Csaba B. Stenge 3rd October 2006 17:54

Re: JU-87 Stuka crashed at Novi Sad (Ujvidek-Neusatz)1943.
 
Yes, it was a German Stuka, not Hungarian (there was a Hungarian accident with 2 dead in 1943 as well, but not with Ju 87)

BTW according to my knowledge, the Ju 87, which attacked the DRAVA in 1941, was damaged and emergency landed (not crashed)

yasig 3rd October 2006 18:42

Re: JU-87 Stuka crashed at Novi Sad (Ujvidek-Neusatz)1943.
 
Thanx Schenck and Csaba,

Any info about crew names and ranks and III/SG151 base at this time?
Searching over the net, found info that the III/SG151 was based at Athens at this time and since october 1943 at Pancevo .

Have also doubt about this particular accident , one source states just one Stuka involved which was on training flight and pilot decide to impress some people on the river bank, another, that 10-12 Stukas straffed some Partisan units at Fruska Gora Mountain( some 10 km south of Novi Sad) and later same story, one Stuka leave the formation and made low pass over the Danube, hitting the power lines.

Thanx and Regards,
YASIG

Schenck 3rd October 2006 22:15

...
 
W.Nr.5291

Uffz Uloth, Paul - KIA
Uffz Friebl, Hans - KIA

Dénes Bernád 25th February 2013 21:37

Re: JU-87 Stuka crashed at Novi Sad (Ujvidek-Neusatz)1943.
 
I revive this thread because I've learned that at the Hungarian air force mechanics' school at Újvidék (in Serbian Novi Sad, in German Neusatz) there were several Bf 110s handed over by the Luftwaffe for instructional purposes. These might have had Luftwaffe crews.

I am wondering if is there any activity recorded for these few Bf 110Cs at this location in any Luftwaffe documents?

Thanks,

Jim P. 1st March 2013 01:00

Re: JU-87 Stuka crashed at Novi Sad (Ujvidek-Neusatz)1943.
 
I have this loss as WNr. 5921 - WNr. 5291 shows up later (at the time when this thread started I had not done the Schulen losses.)

Ju 87R, 5921, Uloth, Uffz. Paul, , III., III., St.G. 151, , , , , 20-Aug-43, Crew killed in crash due to hitting an obstruction., , Lw.Kdo.Südost/Jugoslavien, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22, , Novi Sad, nordwestlich Belgrade, 80%, H, Bf Uffz. Hans Friebel, ,

Ju 87, 5291, ./., , , , Daimler Benz-Werke Echterdingen, , , , , 05-Sep-44, Tiefangriff., , Lfl.10, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, Flzg.-Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.174, , Fl.Pl. Echterdingen, 40%, H, , ,

Stig Jarlevik 1st March 2013 22:29

Re: JU-87 Stuka crashed at Novi Sad (Ujvidek-Neusatz)1943.
 
Again thanks Jim

Handy update

Stig


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