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Maurice P 4th June 2024 00:12

25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher
 
On 25/7/1944 Ltn Eisbacher, Johann was missing “sudlich Siedlce” in Fw 190 Werknr. 160 673 gelbe C + / (RL 5/1313 pg 4)
On 25/7/1944 Ltn Eisbacher, Johann was missing “sudlich Siedlce” in Fw 190 Werknr. 160 675 gelbe C + / (NVM - RL 5/1313 pg 11)
On 25/7/1944 Ltn Eisbacher, Johann was missing “sudlich Siedlce” in Fw 190G-3 Werknr. 160 675 gelbes C (Aktenvermerk - RL 5/1313 pg 14)

Has anyone information about either, or both, of these Fw 190 (673 or 675) which would help me decide which might be correct in this case? One of these surely must be a typo - same kennizeichen, same pilot, same date, same location listed, but different WNr ?

I’m currently leaning to the NVM being the more trustworthy source, but ???

Many thanks in advance for any help you can give me in clearing this up.

Maurice Perry

Nick Beale 4th June 2024 16:20

Re: 25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher
 
W.Nr. 160675 was reported as received from Toul, France on 8 June 1944 (ULTRA CX/MSS/T211/31)
Strength return 1500/8/6 to IB MUSKETE … To strength: two Fw 190 G-3 160675, 160385 from Toul …
Other evidence in this decrypt suggested that it came from I./SKG 10.

And then:
On 12/6, 2./SKG 10, Fw 190 G-3 W.Nr. 160675, red 6, as a result of bombing attack while parked at GAF Station Dreux, was burnt out and received 100% damage. No personnel lost. Replacement required.
(ULTRA CX/MSS/R239(C),43)

Stig Jarlevik 4th June 2024 16:35

Re: 25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 338596)
Something about 160675 here: file:///Users/nickbeale/Documents/Nick's%20stuff/Website/raid/raid_2.html

Link doesn't work Nick
Cheers
Stig

Nick Beale 4th June 2024 17:26

Re: 25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 338598)
Link doesn't work Nick
Cheers
Stig

Sorry, fixed it now by posting the original text.

Maurice P 4th June 2024 18:59

Re: 25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher
 
Many thanks Nick.

So NVM incorrect in this case. 160673 it is.

Maurice Perry.

Stig Jarlevik 5th June 2024 09:30

Re: 25 July 1944 - Ltn Johann Eisbacher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 338599)
Sorry, fixed it now by posting the original text.

Thanks Nick
TOCH was down every time I looked last evening....
Cheers
Stig


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