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Steve Smith 20th September 2024 22:22

US Escort to RAF Bombers December 16th 1944
 
Hi,

Conflicting details on this raid. I have two official reports that suggest that P38 Lightnings were the escort for 100 RAF Lancasters to Seigen. Another report records it was an all RAF escort of RAF Mustangs.

Can anyone please confirm.

TIA

Steve

Rottler 21st September 2024 00:42

Re: US Escort to RAF Bombers December 16th 1944
 
Hello Steve,

according to Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 13/II and 13/IV the Lancasters were escorted by P-38s.
The II./JG 2 engaged the formation southeast of Siegburg and claimed two Lancs and two P-38s.
In the victory table are listed:
15.15 Lancaster Uffz Helmut Bollwerk 5./JG 2
15.28 P-38 Lt Günter Marsfelde 7./JG 2
15.30 P-38 Uffz Theodor Hartmann 6./JG 2
15.30 Lancaster Lt Günter Marsfelde 7./JG 2.
In the loss table two pilots are listed as killed in action:
Uffz Werner Triep 6./JG 2 landing accident airfield Kirch-Göns Bf 109 G-14 WNr. 462997 100%
FhjUffz Heinrich Grabmayer 8./JG 2 aerial combat Lancaster and P-38 southeast of Cologne
Bf 109 G-14 WNr. 463005 blue 9 100%.
The escort fighters returned without losses, the RAF reported the loss of one Lancaster.

Regards
Leo

kaki3152 21st September 2024 05:33

Re: US Escort to RAF Bombers December 16th 1944
 
From the book "The Dynamite Gang: The 367th Fighter Group in WWII" by Richard Groh. "Captain Chester A. Slingerland led thirty six P-38son an escort of RAF Lancasters bombing Siegen, Germany. Twenty Six enemy fighters tried to intercept, but the 393rd and 394th Squadrons drove them away before they got to the bombers. Though it lasted only a few minutes , the fight was spirited. Lieutenant Jack H Hallett...destroyed one of the 109s"

Steve Smith 21st September 2024 09:20

Re: US Escort to RAF Bombers December 16th 1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rottler (Post 340016)
Hello Steve,

according to Jagdfliegerverbände Vol. 13/II and 13/IV the Lancasters were escorted by P-38s.
The II./JG 2 engaged the formation southeast of Siegburg and claimed two Lancs and two P-38s.
In the victory table are listed:
15.15 Lancaster Uffz Helmut Bollwerk 5./JG 2
15.28 P-38 Lt Günter Marsfelde 7./JG 2
15.30 P-38 Uffz Theodor Hartmann 6./JG 2
15.30 Lancaster Lt Günter Marsfelde 7./JG 2.
In the loss table two pilots are listed as killed in action:
Uffz Werner Triep 6./JG 2 landing accident airfield Kirch-Göns Bf 109 G-14 WNr. 462997 100%
FhjUffz Heinrich Grabmayer 8./JG 2 aerial combat Lancaster and P-38 southeast of Cologne
Bf 109 G-14 WNr. 463005 blue 9 100%.
The escort fighters returned without losses, the RAF reported the loss of one Lancaster.

Regards
Leo

Thank you.

Steve

Steve Smith 21st September 2024 09:32

Re: US Escort to RAF Bombers December 16th 1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaki3152 (Post 340018)
From the book "The Dynamite Gang: The 367th Fighter Group in WWII" by Richard Groh. "Captain Chester A. Slingerland led thirty six P-38son an escort of RAF Lancasters bombing Siegen, Germany. Twenty Six enemy fighters tried to intercept, but the 393rd and 394th Squadrons drove them away before they got to the bombers. Though it lasted only a few minutes , the fight was spirited. Lieutenant Jack H Hallett...destroyed one of the 109s"

Thank you.

Steve


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