PLOIESTI 06/10/44
 

Hello

They are credited with victories...but what did they claim?

71°Fsqd
Ralph Hisey=1 (Do-217?)
Carl Hoenshell=3
Rudolph Janci=2
John Allen=1
Chester Heien=1 (Do-217?)
Shepard=1 (prob.?)
Flack=1 (prob.?)

George Eldred=1 IAR 80/81 prob.?

82°FG
William Jefferson=1
John Mcmonegal=1

Merrill Adelson=2 +1prob.?
one Me-210
one He-111
one Fighter prob.?

Thanks in advance
Michel

Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44
 

Michel

Our friend Geoffrey Sinclair wishes to add the following

According to the 82nd FG report for 10 June 1944 claims total 5-3-1
Destroyed, Me110 LtCol Mason, Hs126 Lt Lette, Me210 and Me109 Lt
Adelson, Me109 Lt Rognier? Bognier?
Probable T/E a/c Lt Adelson, Biplane Major Phillips, Me109 Lt Carroll
Damaged Me109 Lt Kidder

By the time it reached 15th AF HQ, destroyed, 1 Bf109, 1 Bf110, 1 Me210,
1 He111, 1 Hs126, probable 1 Bf109, 1 S/E a/c, 1 biplane, damaged 1 Bf109.

No break down for 1st FG, the Air Force report says Bf109 4-2-4, Fw190
6-1-2, Do217 6-0-0, CR42 5-0-0, Fi156 1-0-0, T/E a/c 2-0-0
Cheers
Stig

Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44
 

This doenst really clarify my problem.
J' have the list of the 28 vic.attributed in Romania + 1 (Varnell...J don't know where?)...but J don't know the types (bf.109..fw.190..Do-217???) assigned at each pilots.

Michel

Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44
 

Cannot add anything on the victories, but your Varnell comment is possibly off. According to Frank Olynyk's Stars & Bars, Varnell made no claim on June 10, although he did claim on June 9 and June 11. If any member has a copy of Olynyk's MTO claims book, it would solve your mystery. Unfortunately I do not have it, only his ETO claims book.

Kent

Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44
 

Frank Olynyk lists the following in his USAAF MTO Claims booklet:

33 dest-6 prob-7 dam, all on the morning of June 10, 1944 on the Ploesti mission as follows:

27 FS
Maj. Francis J. Pope Me-109 dam
1/Lt. George R. Eldred Me-109 dest + Me-109 dam
1/Lt. Richard M. Huber Me-109 dest + Me-109 prob
1/Lt. Armour Conway Miller Me-109 dest + 2 Me-109s dam
1/Lt. Robert C. Burgoyne Me-109 prob
2/Lt. Philip E. Tovrea, Jr. Me-109 dest

71 FS
1/Lt. William D. Armstrong CR.42 dest
2/Lt. Herbert Brooks Hatch, Jr. 5 FW-190s dest + 1 prob + 1 dam
2/Lt. Rudolph M. Janci, Jr. Me-109 dest + FW-190 ? dest
2/Lt. Ralph W. Hisey U/I TE aircraft (Do-217?) dest
1/Lt. Carl C. Hoenshell FW-190 dest + 2 Do-217s dest
?/Lt. Willie B. Flack U/I TE aircraft (Do-217?) dest
?/Lt. John J. Shepard 2 Do-217s dest + FW 190 dam

94 FS
1/Lt. John H. Allen CR.42 dest
1/Lt. Harley T. Barlow Do-217 dest
?/Lt. Hugh B. Crandall Do-217 dest
2/Lt. Chester H. Heien CR.42 dest
2/Lt. Everett Miller Fi-156 dest + 2 CR.42s dest

82 FG
Lt/Col. Ben A. Mason Me-110 dest

96 FS
Maj. Herbert L. Phillips biplane prob
1/Lt. Merrill M. Adelson Me-109 dest + SE fighter dest
1/Lt. John W. Sognier Me-109 dest
2/Lt. Walter J. Carroll, Jr. Me-109 prob
2/Lt. Arthur W. Kidder, Jr. Me-109 dam

97 FS
2/Lt. William H. Jefferson SE biplane dest
2/Lt. John P. McMonegal Me-109 dest
2/Lt. Leroy L. Lette Hs-126 dest

Regards,
Tom

Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44
 

Cool Tom Thanks!

What is it ?
Merrill Adelson SE fighter
William Jefferson SE Biplane

Regards michel

Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44
 

SE = single-engined

US pilots has a lot troubles to identify Romanian aircraft, so had least two were honest enough to admit they don't know what they shot at. Most Fw 190 claimed over Romania were actually IAR fighters. On this day, I wonder what were the "CR 42" claimed by several pilots ?

Re: PLOIESTI 06/10/44
 

Hi Laurent

CR-42 were IAR-38/IAR-39 (3)

Do-217 were Bf.110 (3 germans+3 romanians)

Fw.58 (romanians x 3) confused with what?? with Do-217??..surprising anyway!

IAR-27 (1) confused with single engined fighter?...by Merrill Adelson?

Ju-88 (2/NJG 100) claimed by who?...confused with what?

Regards
Michel