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streak98 11th December 2024 09:45

Losses E-Stelle Rechlin 21.05.1944
 
Hello,

Who can help.... on 21.05.1944 two Losses occured in the same Area around the City of Minden (Westfalia). The first one was a Dornier Do-17Z 2517 GL+AY, three Crewmember died on Impact with the Hill near Haddenhausen / Minden.

The second Loss was Heinkel He 111 H-6 4093 KI+XA, all five Crewmember died in this accident, crashing also in the Hill near Kleinenbremen / Minden.

The crashes most likely occurred due to bad weather / flight into terrain.

I`m looking especially for the NVM`s .... the GQM`s are present....

Thanks in advance for your help !!!

Best Regards streak98

Chris Goss 11th December 2024 10:11

Re: Losses E-Stelle Rechlin 21.05.1944
 
Are you after crew names for the Do 17? I do not have the NVM

streak98 11th December 2024 10:38

Re: Losses E-Stelle Rechlin 21.05.1944
 
Good Morning Chris,

yes,.... names of the Do-17 Crewmember as following:

Fl.St.Ing. Eberhard Mann
Uffz Bertram von Clanner-Engelshofen
Uffz Wilhelm Wegerle

greetings Dirk (streak98)

Nick Beale 11th December 2024 10:40

Re: Losses E-Stelle Rechlin 21.05.1944
 
Try Bundesarchiv RL 2-III/779: Tägliche Verlustmeldungen.- Flugzeugunfälle bei Schulen und sonstigen Dienststellen, Bd. 11 (1. Mai–15. Juli 1944)

Its free to download from: https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/main.xhtml

streak98 11th December 2024 10:48

Re: Losses E-Stelle Rechlin 21.05.1944
 
Good Morning Nick,...

Thanks for these Information...

greetings,

Dirk (streak98)

Matti Salonen 11th December 2024 11:47

Re: Losses E-Stelle Rechlin 21.05.1944
 
I don't have the NVMs, but have written down basic info of them at WASt:

Do 17: Absturz in Schlechtwetter. Bruch 100 %.
He 111: Bodenberührung in Schlechtwetter. Bruch 100 %.

Crew of rhe He 111:
Flugzeugführer Uffz Heimann, Josef, tot
Beobachter Fl.Ob.Ing. Beck, Georg, tot
Bordfunker Ofw Wiehle, Herbert, tot
Bordwart Uffz Indiesteln, Gerhard, tot
Oblt Autheried, Ladislaus, tot


Matti

Steve Coates 11th December 2024 14:04

Re: Losses E-Stelle Rechlin 21.05.1944
 
I have the NVM. Happy to send it to you if you PM me with your e-mail address.

Is there a particular reason why you're after this?

streak98 11th December 2024 15:05

Re: Losses E-Stelle Rechlin 21.05.1944
 
Hello Matti and Steve,

Thanks again for your help in this case... I`ve investigate the first Loss (Heinkel He 111 H-6) in the year 2015 after contact to an time-eyewitness in Kleinenbremen. Due to his memory, it was possible to find the exact crashsite of the "Heimann Crew."
Last week after telephonme call with local historian in Haddenhausen, we try to find out more about this Loss from the Donrier Do-17Z. The exact crashsite is not 100% established... but looking for more Documents / Reports in the village of Haddenhausen next time...

Thanks again for all....

Dirk (streak98)

Steve Coates 11th December 2024 15:40

Re: Losses E-Stelle Rechlin 21.05.1944
 
Dirk

Thanks. The NVM is on its way to you. My information is that Mann's Do 17 came into contact with the treetops and crashed in the Wiehen Hills which doesn't massively narrow things down for you.

Steve


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