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edwest2 30th January 2025 20:29

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Scheduled for 31 January.

https://www.avions-bateaux.com/produ...RE+UNITES/5675

Volume One - available now

https://www.avions-bateaux.com/produ...RE+UNITES/5643

Usual disclaimer,
Ed

FalkeEins 24th February 2025 12:14

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Published this week.
A small presentation here

https://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2025/...-by-peter.html

leonventer 24th February 2025 13:35

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Originally Posted by FalkeEins (Post 343243)

Hi Neil,

Thanks very much for that "small" presentation -- excellent stuff!!

Compliments on your fine interview with Peter Taghon. You asked good questions, and Peter's thoughtful responses made for very interesting reading. I also appreciated the translated Steinbock extract while I await the arrival of my two KG 54 volumes.

Together with the new Steinbock book by Chris Goss, we'll now have a much clearer understanding of the failure of those operations.

Regards,
Leon Venter

Chris Goss 24th February 2025 15:20

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My book is a 30,000-word Osprey special but I have been asked to expand this in the future.


Neil: One thing, your Blog about Bellstedt was condensed from Avions (which I have not yet seen)? BTW Leslie Howard was not American but British!

FalkeEins 24th February 2025 15:47

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Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 343246)
Neil: One thing, your Blog about Bellstedt was condensed from Avions (which I have not yet seen)? BTW Leslie Howard was not American but British!

Chris, no, I haven't seen the latest issue yet either, although I did catch the short pdf extract on the Lela Presse website. As surprised as you! And thanks for pointing out that Howard was British - I was sure I meant 'Hollywood' ....

thanks too Leon. I stumbled across the photos of Hellwig in Peter's book - another surprise. I regularly walk the dog around Hawkinge cemetery (past Hellwig's grave) but have never been curious about him....

Nick Beale 25th February 2025 09:56

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Originally Posted by leonventer (Post 343245)
Together with the new Steinbock book by Chris Goss, we'll now have a much clearer understanding of the failure of those operations.

Regards,
Leon Venter

At this point I feel obliged to plug my own work about the 14/15 May 1944 raid on Bristol which completely failed to find the city: http://www.ghostbombers.com/kf4/West/bristol1.html

leonventer 25th February 2025 19:54

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Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 343262)
Quote:

Originally Posted by leonventer (Post 343245)
Together with the new Steinbock book by Chris Goss, we'll now have a much clearer understanding of the failure of those operations.

At this point I feel obliged to plug my own work about the 14/15 May 1944 raid on Bristol which completely failed to find the city: http://www.ghostbombers.com/kf4/West/bristol1.html

I realize that my "much clearer understanding" remark inadvertently dissed the authors of all the existing works on Operation Steinbock, including:
  • Nick Beale on his "Ghost Bombers" site
  • Ron MacKay "The Last Blitz"
  • After the Battle "The Blitz Then and Now, Vol. 3"
  • Ken Wakefield "Pfadfinder"
  • Edmund Blandford "Target England"
  • Alfred Price "Blitz on Britain"
amongst others. My apologies to all concerned! :o

Here's hoping Chris Goss will be able to put out that expanded version of his Osprey title at some point in the near future. It's likely to be the definitive account.

Leon Venter

FalkeEins 26th February 2025 10:43

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Originally Posted by leonventer (Post 343266)
I realize that my "much clearer understanding" remark inadvertently dissed the authors of all the existing works on Operation Steinbock, including:

.. there are indeed a number of good books on Steinbock. A personal favourite is Jean-Louis Roba's title for Lela Presse in the BA series. As this is the KG 54 book thread I should perhaps point out that M. Roba plays a key role here as M. Taghon does not write his books in French AFAIK and definitely not in English (AFAIK)

Nick Beale 26th February 2025 12:02

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Originally Posted by FalkeEins (Post 343270)
.. there are indeed a number of good books on Steinbock. A personal favourite is Jean-Louis Roba's title for Lela Presse in the BA series. As this is the KG 54 book thread I should perhaps point out that M. Roba plays a key role here as M. Taghon does not write his books in French AFAIK and definitely not in English (AFAIK)

I got "The Last Blitz" when it came out and there was a lot in there but in reading it I remember feeling a bit dissatisfied overall, that there was more to explore. Personally, I'd like to find more about German efforts to jam British radar but one National Archives file is 'unavailable (fragile or in need of repair) … requires treatment for mould' and while I found the interim report on the Kettenhund jammer I've never found the final one.

Another dimension that I've happened on more recently is the high-level discussion in the Luftwaffe (memos in various Bundesarchiv files) about how much of a future the bomber arm still had in 1944 given the supply of replacement crews and the lack of new aircraft types coming through — and that's before the fuel started to run out.

FalkeEins 26th February 2025 13:01

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Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 343271)
the high-level discussion in the Luftwaffe (memos in various Bundesarchiv files) about how much of a future the bomber arm still had in 1944 given the supply of replacement crews and the lack of new aircraft types coming through — and that's before the fuel started to run out.

I'd have thought 'Steinbock' virtually finished it off. And ops over Normandy applied the 'coup de grâce' - KG 54 lost around 50 Ju 88s during this period (often with crews) with a similar number of Ju 88s damaged. There's an interesting account from a TG 1 pilot in Peter's book - from finishing his instrument training on Ju 52s he was posted to KG 40 where he didn't fly as the Geschwader was then being disbanded before arriving at I./ KG(J) 54 and going straight onto the 262.


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