Graves of Zerstorer Experten
 

Hi all!

Does anybody have info about plase of burth of following Zerstorer pilots?

Where it is possible to may be visit those graves?

Hannes Gentzen
+ 26.05.1940 Neufchateau, France

Wolfgang Schenck
Lived in Marburg, but I don’t know where & when he passed away…

Egon Albrecht
+ 25.08.1944 bei Creil/Frankreich

Herbert Kutscha
+ 19.09.2003 Kempten

Johannes Lutter
+ 13.03.2004 Bückeburg

Scheffel, Rudolf
+ 18.12.1983 Mönchengladbach

Gunther Tonne
+ 15.07.1943 Vibo Valentia/Italien

Peter Jenne
+ 02.03.1945 bei Schmerwitz/Mark Brandenburg

Dassow, Rudi
+ 25.08.1944 bei La Fère/Frankreich

Peterburs, Hans
+ 11.01.1944 bei Salerno/Italien

Diesing, Ulrich
+ 17.04.1945 Boizenburg

Tratt, Eduard
+ 22.02.1944 Nordhausen/Harz

Hintze, Otto
+ 09.05.1999

With best wishes, Evgenij

Re: Graves of Zerstorer Experten
 

Best thing you can do is use the Volksbund website (http://www.volksbund.de/graebersuche/content_suche.asp).

For example, it will give you the grave of Johannes Gentzen (in Germany).

Search all your list, and then ask here only those that are not listed on the Volksbund for more details. You will have more luck to draw replies if you had already done a part of the work.

Best regards

Laurent

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Likely burial places: Hintze - Munich, and Schenck - Marburg. Schenck died in the late 1990s, I believe.

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Thank John & Laurent for answer!!!

I searched this things in past, but could found only photoe of grave of Egon Albrecht:

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Thank you for that information, Eugen.
George

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This photo was published in my article about Egon Albrecht. The photo was taken in a cemitery at Creil, France. Do not have it´s name, maybe only one exhist there.
http://www.asgard-rio.com.br/coluna1-sergio.htm

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Hallo, Sergio Luis dos Santos!!! Nice to see You here!!!

Where did You found a scan image of report of Fw.Tamm about last mission of Kaldrack & Ortmann? Is it real to find there any more SKG 210/ZG 1 reports?

I discussed this mission with my friends on Suhkoy Forum...

And, according with some documents from ZAMO archives of Russian Federation, we have to say: I found a name of that I-18 pilot (actually it was LaGG-3 fighter from 21 IAP, pilot - starshij leytenant N.F.Bocharov). Both german planes was hit by rockets RS-82, launched from VERY short distance.

After we will clear all with this 100%, I will post it here.

Also, here it is a claim list of Albrecht for You, as fuul as it can be found. A bit later I will try to confirm eatch victory with Russian losts, and find name of crews... If You will use this sourse to find DIRECT locations of victoryes, all work will be very fast :)

Victory №1
08.02.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 R-5  1 km. S.W. Wjerchowje: no height 16.14 Film C. 2034 Wartemappe?
Victory №2
04.07.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 Yak-1  8126 at 700 m. 16.18 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.14
Victory №3
04.07.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 Yak-1  8123 at 600-300 m. 16.27 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: ASM
Victory №4
26.07.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 Yak-1  07 120: at 100 m. 04.34 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.
Victory №5
26.07.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-153  87 210: no height 16.25 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.
Victory №6
01.08.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-16 Rata  0614: at 1.800 m. 10.19 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr. 55
Victory №7
23.08.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-153  75 272: at 25 m. 14.44 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 59
Victory №8
24.08.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 DB-3  75 282: at 70 m. 16.29 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 60
Victory №9
23.09.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-15  95 550: at 20-30 m. 12.35 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 74
Victory №10
31.10.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-153  44 780: at 20 m. 14.39 Film C. 2035/I Anerk: Nr. 76
Victory №11
05.11.42 Ltn. Egon Albrecht 6./ZG 1 I-16 Rata  44 853 at 50 m. 08.25 Film C. 2035/I Anerk: Nr. 79
Victory №?
22.02.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  südl. Pilsen: 6.100 m. [Bohemia] 12.50 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.28
Victory №?
23.02.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  S. Wels: 6.500 m. 12.02 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.35
Victory №?
25.02.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  40 km. N.N.W. Brück: 6.000 m. 13.11 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.27
Victory №?
12.04.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  E. Wiener Neustadt: 6.000 m. 12.13 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.36
Victory №?
26.06.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  14 Ost N/CO-5: 7.000 m. [N.W. Pressburg] 09.32 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.37
Victory №?
26.06.44 Hptm. Egon Albrecht Stab II./ZG 1 B-24  14 Ost N/CM-6: 6.500 m. [Stockerau] 09.52 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.34

Also, Albrecht WAS NOT StaKa of 1./ZG 1.

11-06-42 Oblt. Albert Heilmayer (seems HE was StaKa of 6./ZG 1 after G.Tonne) was shot down by Flak and killed over Schebekino.

And 12-06-42 Albrecht could became StaKa only of "his" 6./ZG 1, not 1./ZG 1 or 4./ZG 1.

S!

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Hello Eugen,
I really love internet when used for the good.
So you found my other articles at IPMS-Curitiba !
The report of Fw. Tamm was found by author Francis L. Marshal. He has a publishing house, Marshall-Verlag but looks the page is out. Can´t find now... First time I heard of Wolfgang Ortmann was when Francis noticed me the report. Some time latter I could send "in exchange" a new pilot name for his book on the Bf 109 T, Günther Eggebrecht (second updated edition only in German language).
John Vasco published an English translation of this report in his book "Sting of the Luftwaffe". In fact I used John´s one to translate to Portuguese. Since you´re in contact with him I believe he has a copy of it also.
Many thanks for the exciting, to me, new info on Egon victories and Wolfgang last mission. Much appreciated.
I´ll update my files in home. Just hope one day Wolfgang´s last place be found.
Hugs from Rio,

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Here You are: map , showing last combat mission of Kaldrack & Ortmann.

Basary airfield is located near Staraya Toropa town, South of Toropetz.

Salute!

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I notice that Hptm Egon Albrecht-Lemke is buried together with an unknown, (Ein Deutscher Soldat) in Beauvais Cemetery, could this be his crewman?
Regards
Joe