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focusfocus 29th April 2025 08:58

JGr.176 (09/1939)
 
Hello

In JFV TEIL 2 P.549(Prien)
Oblt.Rhinow and Uffz.Köpke,Zusammenstoss in der luft...absturz bei Triberg (29/09/1939)

According to Shores (fledgling eagles) and several french sources:

Shot down by GC II/4 (wolfersheim)...27/09/1939!!

Where is the error?

michel

Peter Kassak 29th April 2025 11:11

Re: JGr.176 (09/1939)
 
We went with the date 29.9.1939 in our ZG 76 book as the date of their loss in mid air collision.
Maybe the 27.9. was a mistake due to a similarity of claims of French airmen.

Peter

Rolfeb 10th June 2025 07:54

Re: JGr.176 (09/1939)
 
You can find the loss in the Military Archive dated 29.09.1939. I strongly beleive it was the 29th.
Just looked it up.
I´m interested in the mission itself. Any details?
Thanks Rolf

Peter Kassak 10th June 2025 07:57

Re: JGr.176 (09/1939)
 
It was an air collision during mission...no further details.
"...pursued a French aircraft northeast of Freiburg. During the attack attempts, a pair of Bf 109s collided with each other. A Staffelkapitän Oblt. Friedrich-Karl Rhinow got out successfully of his crippled aircraft. His colleague Uffz. Ernst Köpke wasn´t so lucky and remained trapped in his Bf 109. Both Bf 109 crashed near Triberg."

Rolfeb 10th June 2025 08:19

Re: JGr.176 (09/1939)
 
Thank you Peter

robert 10th June 2025 21:48

Re: JGr.176 (09/1939)
 
This collision took place at 11.45 hrs

Rolfeb 11th June 2025 06:41

Re: JGr.176 (09/1939)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robert (Post 345138)
This collision took place at 11.45 hrs

Hi Robert,
thanks for the info. May I ask you which source you used for the collision time?

Thanks again
Rolf

robert 11th June 2025 21:58

Re: JGr.176 (09/1939)
 
Hans Ring and Peter Cornwell

Rolfeb 12th June 2025 06:46

Re: JGr.176 (09/1939)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robert (Post 345175)
Hans Ring and Peter Cornwell

Thank you


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