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Reiner 17th May 2025 19:04

Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
Hello
On February 21, 1945, according to his flight log, Josef Keil, III./JG301, claimed a "Fortress" over Berlin. He took off from Sachau airfield at 4:13 p.m. and landed at 5:00 p.m. What could he have shot down? I can't find an answer.
Thank you very much for your help.
Rene

Peter Kassak 18th May 2025 10:25

Re: Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
the only lost B-17s that day were of the 15th USAAF. 2nd BG attacking Vienna. both planes lost were heading towards Russian lines.
Third lost plane of 463rd BG was lost over Vienna as well.

THe 8th USAAF was over Nurnberg...quite far from Berlin...

Kaczmarek 18th May 2025 17:07

Re: Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
Hello René,

the claim of 21 Feb 45 ist categorized as one of the "unreliable claims" from Ofw. Keil.

Regards,
René

Reiner 18th May 2025 18:58

Re: Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
Yes, this claim cannot be proven.
Thanks Peter and Rene

Nick Beale 19th May 2025 21:38

Re: Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
Bundesarchiv file RL 2-II/388 (free to download) covers defence of the Reich and says that on 21 February in the West about 1,000 American four-engined bombers attacked Nürnberg. 600 more came from the South to attack Vienna.

The only "own operations" were four aircraft of 1 Jagd Division and 20 Me 262s against reconniassance aircraft over NW Germany and the Berlin area. Three successes were claimed. 20 more aircraft flew protection for Stendal aierodrome which was heavily occupied.

(This does not include operations against the Allies on the Western Front or in the East).

Frank 9th July 2025 17:34

Re: Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
Hello

Sorry if I hook up,

Is known when OFW. Josef Jupp Keil born and when

Greetings Frank

Frank 9th July 2025 19:01

Re: Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
Unfortunately, under RL 2-II/388 I don't find any entry in the Federal Archives, is there a link?

James A Pratt III 18th July 2025 18:27

Re: Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
The claim list from the book JG 301/302 "Wilde Sau" by Willi Reschke has the claim on 20 Feb 1945. Could he have shot down another type of aircraft like a VVS IL-4?

Frank 20th July 2025 13:06

Re: Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
Hello,
The flight book shows a B-17


But what is the Typ VVS IL-4???
Russisch

Luc Vervoort 20th July 2025 13:51

Re: Luftwaffe claim on 21.2.1945
 
Hi,

Here is the requested link.

https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/inve...-868c87c4ef58/

Best regards

Luc


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