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Andrey Kuznetsov 27th May 2025 13:51

Romanian Air Force in the Caucasus 1942
 
Hello,

I am trying to find something about Romanian Air Force operations in the Caucasus. The books I know about the history of the Romanian Air Force do not give anything on this subject. There is a little bit in the book ‘Third Axis Fourth Ally’ (1995) by Mark Axworthy, Cornel Scafes and Cristian Craciunoiu, but in the description of 1942 almost all attention is given to Stalingrad.
About the Caucasus it is said that Esc.2, 112, 14 were directly attached to the 3rd Romanian Army, Esc.16, 17 - to the corps, and the transport Esc.105 also took part. No further details.

Among the sources listed are numerous microfilms with archival documents, e.g. FI.1.173. I wonder, where these microfilms are now.

I was registered on the Romanian forum (http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/), but have not been there for a long time. I can't find my password, they don't register new members, the email I used for the registration no longer exists. So it's a hopeless situation.

Best regards,
Andrey

Nick Beale 27th May 2025 15:32

Re: Romanian Air Force in the Caucasus 1942
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrey Kuznetsov (Post 344825)
Hello,

I am trying to find something about Romanian Air Force operations in the Caucasus. The books I know about the history of the Romanian Air Force do not give anything on this subject.

Best regards,
Andrey


I guess you already know Denes Bernad's 'Romanian Air Force the Prime Decade 1938–1947" but it's only a very slim book, so all the campaigns only get brief coverage.

Andrey Kuznetsov 27th May 2025 16:31

Re: Romanian Air Force in the Caucasus 1942
 
Hello Nick,

yes, I have it. But operations in the Caucasus are completely omitted in this book.

Best regards,
Andrey

edwest2 27th May 2025 19:31

Re: Romanian Air Force in the Caucasus 1942
 
Perhaps the following might help:

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/...8-book-review/

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/...n-aeronautics/

https://www.scalemates.com/books/ger...e-radu--130207

Andrey Kuznetsov 27th May 2025 20:45

Re: Romanian Air Force in the Caucasus 1942
 
Ed, thank you.

Judging by the annotations, these are richly illustrated books about airplanes, not about the history of the Air Force. And Hs129 is definitely off topic, because the Romanians didn't have it in 1942.

I am looking for answers to the following questions:
- What did Romanian aviation do in the Caucasus?
- Was it only reconnaissance missions, liaison and transport sorties? Or were some of these squadrons also used in a strike role?
- What did they achieve? Were the ground forces satisfied with their performance? Etc.
Ideally I would like to find daily reports.

Best regards,
Andrey

edwest2 27th May 2025 21:31

Re: Romanian Air Force in the Caucasus 1942
 
Andrey,


I hope you can read Romanian.


Text prezentat la Conferinţa Ştiinţifică „75 de ani de la dezbobirea Basarabiei", Chişinău, 22-23 iunie 2016

Confruntări aeriene româno sovietice, misiuni de bombardament, vânătoare recunoaştere şi lansări de paraşutişti (21 iunie 1941 - 23 august 1944), Editura Editgraph, Buzău, 2017.


Arhivele Naţionale Istorice Centrale (în continuare A.N.I.C.), Fond Preşedenţia Consiliului de Miniştri Cabinetul Mareşalului (în continuare P.C.M.C.M.), ds. 170/1942, f. 32.


There is also the Romanian National Military Archives:


https://amnr-defense-ro.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ro&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc


In Romanian:


https://amnr.defense.ro/




Best,
Ed

Andrey Kuznetsov 27th May 2025 22:45

Re: Romanian Air Force in the Caucasus 1942
 
Ed,

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 344839)
I hope you can read Romanian.

I once read a Romanian language textbook and used a dictionary to read a 3-volume book on the history of the Romanian navy in ww2. A lot of time has passed since then, but online translators have emerged.

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 344839)
Text prezentat la Conferinţa Ştiinţifică „75 de ani de la dezbobirea Basarabiei", Chişinău, 22-23 iunie 2016

Confruntări aeriene româno sovietice, misiuni de bombardament, vânătoare recunoaştere şi lansări de paraşutişti (21 iunie 1941 - 23 august 1944), Editura Editgraph, Buzău, 2017.

21.6.1941???
There is a text on the Internet about the bombing of Romanian territory by Soviet aviation on 21.6.41, the day before "Barbarossa". This is an alternative history. Did it really make it into the text presented at the scientific conference?

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 344839)
https://amnr-defense-ro
https://amnr.defense.ro/

The links doesn't open

Best regards,
Andrey

Andrey Kuznetsov 12th June 2025 15:16

Re: Romanian Air Force in the Caucasus 1942
 
Is there a known number of Romanian planes (preferably broken down by type and combat-ready/defective) in the East on 1.Aug.42 or on the nearest dates?

Best regards,
Andrey


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