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Boomerang 11th November 2006 12:41

Colour Luftwaffe Guncamera Footage
 
Gentleman:

Having finally found some colour LW guncamera footage courtesy of our ubiquitous friends at YouTube (see sequence commencing at 3:05):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp5IF9ijeZQ

I am curious as to whether any other examples of such colour footage are available.

Cheers

Boomerang

hihotte 11th November 2006 17:12

Re: Colour Luftwaffe Guncamera Footage
 
Holá Boomerang
thank you for your posting. The Bundesarchiv and the MA in Koblenz are full of those colour footages but unfortunately the authorities in charge
consider the german people and the rest of enthusiasts all over the world
for mentally not prepared to watch these "propaganda" rails. Result of political correctness.
@all, this is what you miss, if you don´t visit the site boomerang had posted.
Cheers
hihotte

George Hopp 11th November 2006 17:48

Re: Colour Luftwaffe Guncamera Footage
 
It's actually PK footage, but great! Thanks, Boomerang!
All the best,
George

ChrisMAg2 11th November 2006 19:20

Re: Colour Luftwaffe Guncamera Footage
 
The "P" in PK stands for Propaganda. And the clips are not in colour but colorised. A (maybe) minor, but important difference.

George Hopp 11th November 2006 20:52

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Quote:

The "P" in PK stands for Propaganda.
Yes, I know that PK stands for Propaganda Kompanie. Well, whether in colour or colourized, they are still great!

Etienne 11th November 2006 21:51

Re: Colour Luftwaffe Guncamera Footage
 
Thanks to Boomerang and Hihote. Great to see some "fresh" luftwaffe in colour.
By the way, these are hand held camera footage apart from a little snippet at the end.
Christian, on what grounds do you say this footage is colorised?.........I cannot belive that someone would go to all that trouble to colorise archive footage!
While we are on the subject,does anyboby know if the well known propaganda footage of the Bf 109 E over the Med. coastline ( of wich several still photos exist) is available? I would dearly love to see that footage.
Thanks again guys!
Etienne.

Nick Beale 11th November 2006 23:55

Re: Colour Luftwaffe Guncamera Footage
 
And the commentary is in Italian, so it is at least possible that Italians shot the film.

It is also unlikely that either Germans or Italians took the ground level shots of bombs hitting, if those bombs really are hitting Malta. Presumably it's British newsreel or some library footage of bombing grafted in.

Interesting film though. A really dramatic sequence from the Med (which has been on TV here) records RAF Beauforts attacking an Axis supply convoy at mast-height.

ChrisMAg2 12th November 2006 06:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Etienne (Post 32453)
...
Christian, on what grounds do you say this footage is colorised?.........I cannot belive that someone would go to all that trouble to colorise archive footage!
...

Etienne,
if you carefully look at the movies, you will notice there are actually only two "colors" visible, plus a gray variety. A real color footage would show a very broader range of colors, even if downgraded to web-quality.

I.e. the fuselage of the Ju 88 (should be two-tone green) is actualy plain two-tone grey. The undersurface is not light blue (like the sky) but just light grey or white. The pilot is just sepia-yellow in different shades.

I didn't want to say the images are bad, on the contrary. But to somebody who specialises in color (me!), i would want to put emphasis on this "distinction". I am also always interessted to see real color footage, but feel disappointed, if they turn out to be "just colorised". That's why I made that comment.
I hope I didn't offend anybody with my comments and would want to apologize if I did so.

George Hopp 12th November 2006 07:06

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Thank you for that, Christian.
George

Etienne 12th November 2006 11:50

Re: Colour Luftwaffe Guncamera Footage
 
Thanks for that Christian............no offence taken.
To make up for the general disappiontment I enclose a receint "find"
on AIRLINERS.NET.According to the caption it is colour slides.
Obviously the colours took a beating due to age.
Once again,if anyone has got some unseen colour, please share it
with us!


Cheers,
Etienne.


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