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Kurtl12 11th November 2006 15:11

Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
I'm looking for the pilots Uffz. Schuller and Ofw. Uhlig which were both flying a Messerschmitt Me110 of II./ZG1 (Destroyerwing 1 or Zerstörergeschwader 1) on May 24th, 1944 and both claimed to shoot down a P38 over Lower Austria.
We have found the crashplace of probably one of those P38 and excavated some parts of that plane. Now, we are trying to get information about the Messerschmitts and P38s and it's pilots. About the P38 I will state in the subforum about Allies.
Most of interest is where the destroyer were based that day. Maybe someone has a picture of the planes or it's pilot or knows a source where I could get such. I'm thankful for any information regarding this case.

Regards from Austria,

Kurtl

Evgeny Velichko 13th November 2006 21:44

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
Hi!

It seems, that Uffz. Schüller has only 1 claim.
24.05.44 Uffz. Schüller 6./ZG 1 P-38  EM 3 at 5.000 m. [Rohr i. Gebirge] 11.40 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69

Lothar Uhlig was an "Ace" with 8 victoryes:

11.07.43 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Spitfire  S.E. Fl.Pl. Gela: 4.000 m. 16.55 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr. -
22.02.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 B-24  S.E. Pilsen: 7.000 m. [Bohemia] 12.50 Film C. 2025/I Anerk: Nr.23
13.04.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 B-24  14 Ost N/JS-9: 5.300 m. [Sarborgard] 13.09 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.32
24.04.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Boston III  34 Ost N/ UL: at 300 m. 09.58 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 29
11.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Boston III  34 Ost/NT-4.6: at 2.000 m. 12.08 Film C. 2032/I VNE: ASM
12.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 4./ZG 1 Boston III  34 Ost N/SG-8: no height 07.26 Film C. 2032/I VNE: ASM
24.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 6./ZG 1 P-38  Bad Voslau: 6.000 m. 11.42 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.6
29.05.44 Ofw. Lothar Uhlig 6./ZG 1 B-24  DM 8: 6.500 m. [S.E. St. Pölten] 11.06 Film C. 2027/II VNE: ASM

Evgeny Velichko 13th November 2006 22:46

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
About photoes of Bf110G-2, II./ZG 1 "Wespe"

Sourse of photoes:

Bf110G-2 with crew, 4./ZG 1
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW/Me110-G2-47s.jpg

Bf110G-2, 5./ZG 1
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW/Me110-G2-24s.jpg

6./ZG 1 in flight
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW4/Me110-G2-62.jpg

III./ZG 76 ?
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW/Me110-G2-46.jpg
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW4/Me110-G2-60.jpg
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW4/Me110-G2-61.jpg

Pawel Burchard 13th November 2006 22:48

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
Dear Eugen, wouldn't it be nice to give the source when quoting? :)

kind regards,
Pawel

Erich 13th November 2006 22:53

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
Eugen :

you second pic shows a G-2 from ZG 76

Evgeny Velichko 14th November 2006 00:08

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
Oh... Sorry...

Corrected...

Erich 14th November 2006 00:17

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
further notes :

top pic is a ZG 26 machine along with your two links, ZG 26 Bf 110G-2's, note the similiar styles of spinner markings and thin white fuselage band with the first photo . . .

E ~

Kurtl12 21st November 2006 13:54

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
Hello,
Thanks for your response! What does "11.40 Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69" mean? Does there a movie from the gun-camera exists? From where you got that information?

Thanks, Kurtl

Laurent Rizzotti 21st November 2006 14:14

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
11.40 is the time of the claimed victory

"Film C. 2027/II Anerk: Nr.69" means that this victory is the 69th listed in the microfilm C. 2027/II in the German archives.

Pawel Burchard 21st November 2006 22:46

Re: Messerschmit Me110 of II./ZG1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurtl12 (Post 32890)
From where you got that information?

http://www.lesbutler.ip3.co.uk/tony/tonywood.htm


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