He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

Hello everyone,
I need your help to find out if there is any information about the shooting down of a He.111, belonging to s.K.G.10, in the Beauvais area on 24 October 1943.

I am reporting the news from a small diary kept by the on-board radio operator, Lt. Karl Manger, who survived the shooting down, so there may be inaccuracies and errors (mine) in the transcription:

The aircraft was a He.111 ‘K 7+T K’ which was ‘shot down at 12.12 on Oct.24th 1943 by a Mustang, near Beauvais’.

I hope you can help me identify the aircraft and, if possible, the crew too...!

Thanks in advance!
Marco

Re: He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

Hello Marco,

GQM loss return 28 Oct 1943 item 94:
24.10.43 Flugbereitschaft/Luftflottenkommando 6 Feindflug, Beauvais Notlandung infolge Bordwaffenbeschuß, am Boden verbrannt, He 111 H-11 WNr. 6418 100%.
F Hptm Siegfried Hensel
B Lt Karl Mangner
Bf Uffz Hellmuth Daub, alle verletzt.

Regards
Leo

Re: He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

Thanks a lot Leo much appreciated!

Sorry what is the meaning of GQM?

And also, the meaning of ‘K 7+T K’ ?

Thanks again!

Re: He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

GQM = General Quarter Master where losses were reported

K7+TK = Fuselage code of the aircraft. K7 suggests Aufklärungsgruppe Nacht, T is individual aircraft letter, K indicates 2. Staffel.

Re: He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

Great thank you Tim!


I suppose GQM is the english translation of LW General HQ... is this open dataon Invenio (Bundesarchiv) or NARA?

Re: He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

Hi,

They are accessible on Invenio (Bundesarchiv) see http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=62434 and go to post #146 for a list covering the majority of the files.

Re: He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

Thank you so much ;)


Very appreciated guys, this forum is always great !


Best wishes to all,


Marco

Re: He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

Btw....is there a chance to know the Allied report of this LW aircraft shot down?

Re: He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

Where did SKG 10 come from while Aufklst Nacht operated on the Eastern Front? 400 Sqn claimed to have damaged a He 111 near Rouen on this date and times match

Re: He.111 , s.K.G.10, shot down Oct.24th 1943 Bauvais, France, help please
 

I agree withy you, it looks something concerning the units doesn't match: sKG10 is an handwritten note inside his personal diary some days before the mission, but could not have anything related to the action.
What he writes about his aircraft is ‘K 7+T K’.

Please note that it's a pencil handwriting, maybe something is not good readable..