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Marcel Hogenhuis 19th December 2025 19:08

Spanner IV ?
 
Hello,

I was wondering whether someone has information about the Spanner IV Gerät and its dimensions etc. ? Must check libary, so if anybody can point me to a specific title in which the Spanner IV is mentioned, please feel free to let me know :)

Thank you in advance ! Marcel

Mikael Olrog 19th December 2025 22:43

Re: Spanner IV ?
 
I mentioned it shortly in my Kauz night fighter book, Active device, appears to have been a prototype version tested on a Do 217 night fighter during 1943 but no known technical details - to my knowledge. Would be great to locate additional information/material

Marcel Hogenhuis 20th December 2025 00:41

Re: Spanner IV ?
 
Helllo Michael,

Fw. Werner Fick (E-Stelle Travemünde) was on FlH.Venlo between 21th November 1942 till 5th December 1942 and flew many times with Do17 (Stkz. LI+NS), the purpose of his flights is noted with a puzzling '31'.

In BAMA RL 36/19 (Monatsberichte Trävemünde Dec.1942) I found a reference to testflights at the XII.Fliegerkorps (that includes the I./NJG 1 in Venlo) with Spanner IV, so I suspect that this is the reason for Ficks presence in Venlo.

End 1943 Fick returned to Venlo and was detached to the I./NJG 1 to fly the He219. It would be interesting to know which device(s) he tested with this nightfighter up to his deathly crash in April 1944.

Best regards, Marcel

Nick Beale 20th December 2025 11:32

Re: Spanner IV ?
 
This may not be the Spanner model you have in mind but I do have this description from August 1942:

MKA 956 Ref. 888 Ref. CX/MSS/1253/T14, 987/T16

122 specimens of a device known as Nachtsuchgerät, NSG, Katze, Katzenauge or Handspanner had been delivered in area of AOC South up to August 1st.

This device is an infra-red telescope, dimensions seven inches by three inches and is used like a telescope to detect infra-red radiation from hot parts (especially engine exhausts) of night fighters. Night fighter appears as a reddish to yellowish spot of light. Range is up to half a mile. There is no image erector [sic] in this telescope. It is considered by the Germans a valuable aid for evading night fighters.

These apparatus have been allocated as follows:

Under Fliegerkorps II: 25 each for KG 54 and KG 77, three for 1.(F)/122
Under Fliegerkorps X: 25 for LG 1, three each for Kommando Koch and 2.(F)/123.
Under Fliegerführer Afrika: 10 for ZG 26, five for 12./LG 1, 3 for 1.(F)/121.
Remaninder held as reserve stock in Italy.

1536/4/8/42 GMT

Marcel Hogenhuis 20th December 2025 22:08

Re: Spanner IV ?
 
Hello Nick,

Thank you for your comments !
I have to dig up Gebhard Aders, History of German Nightfighting 1917-1945 and some other books on this technical subject to see whether I can find a definitive answer. I did find some info about the early Spanner-sets and it can reasonably assumed that Spanner IV was a further developed variant, but I am always to try to be sure :)

Wish you a Merry Christmas and - never too soon - Happy New Year !

Marcel

Mikael Olrog 21st December 2025 14:04

Re: Spanner IV ?
 
If I remember correctly, Katze is a different item than Spanner. There were both active and passive IR equipment under development.


LI+NS is not a valid Stkz.


Yes Fick has very strange references to the purpose of his flights. Must have had some system.

Peter Achs 21st December 2025 22:09

Re: Spanner IV ?
 
According to Fritz Trenkle: "Deutsche Funkmeßverfahren bis 1945" Spanner IV was a periscope image converter (Periskop-Bildwandler) for vertical installation in the Do 217. Manufacturer: AEG/Leitz in 1943, no further information available

newcomer 22nd December 2025 13:32

Re: Spanner IV ?
 
Helo, maybe this is that book: https://www.ebay.de/itm/168010839803...90.c101224.m-1

Marcel Hogenhuis 22nd December 2025 14:33

Re: Spanner IV ?
 
Hello,

No, unfortunately not, this is another from several books Fritz Trenkle wrote about German radar, radio navigation and other electronic equipment. Nevertheless thank you for looking with me :)

Best wishes, Marcel


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