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Snautzer 28th September 2026 13:26

3 victory over P-38 15-04-1944 over Germany
 
3 P-38 were shot down on this date. They belonged to yellow flight, consisting of yellow flight, Capt. Orville E. Myers, flight leader, 2nd Lt. Fred F. Kingsbury, and 2nd Lt. Edward L. Henkle


Edward L Henkle 756570 pilot POW P-38 42-104214 ( 364th Fighter Group 384th Fighter Squadron) enemy aircraft 15-04-1944 crashed Groze Holzwinde near Oldendorf 13:30 MACR 3895 15-04-1944


Orville E. Myers 659167 Pilot KIA P-38 42-67737 (364th Fighter Group 384th Fighter Squadron) enemy fighters crashed Muehorn / Totenburg-Zeven Gr MACR 3892 15-04-1944


Fred F. Kingsbury 750615 Pilot KIA P-3842-67240 ( 364th Fighter Group 384th Fighter Squadron) enemy aircraft crashed near Ottersberg Gr. MACR 3891 15-04-1944


Who could have been the victors if indeed they were shot down by enemy fighters ( that is the cause given in J-845 for Edward L Henkle)


Thanks in advance

Chris Goss 28th September 2026 14:48

Re: 3 victory over P-38 15-04-1944 over Germany
 
JG 11 claimed 11 P-38s on this date. Only locations are Ofw Schulz 9./JG 11 Rotenburg; Hptm Rolf Hermichen Stab I./JG 11 Rotenburg & Zeven

Buckeye30 29th September 2026 12:17

Re: 3 victory over P-38 15-04-1944 over Germany
 
This was FO.299 strafing airfields; 11 P-38s were lost, 364FG 8, 55FG 3.


385FS: Capt. Dominy KIA, Capt. Reynolds KIA, Lt. Sims POW, Lt. Street KIA.
384FS: Lt. Moore POW, Lt. Henkle POW, Capt. Myers KIA, Lt.Kingsbury KIA.
55th. losses probably all Flak. Some other losses due to the bad weather.
All 364th KIA are on the Group's Memorial at the Mighty Eighth AF Museum in Georgia.


Nick

Snautzer 29th September 2026 12:35

Re: 3 victory over P-38 15-04-1944 over Germany
 
Thank you.

Buckeye30 30th September 2026 11:55

Re: 3 victory over P-38 15-04-1944 over Germany
 
Chris I think Hermichen may have shot down 2 of the 384th P-38s, Henkle, Myers and Kingsbury were last seen low down near Verden about 13.50; Moore was near Stade airfield N. of Rotenburg. I believe Hermichen made 2 claims.


Nick

Snautzer 30th September 2026 11:59

Re: 3 victory over P-38 15-04-1944 over Germany
 
@ buckeye30 i will come across Capt. Orville E. Myers, flight leader, 2nd Lt. Fred F. Kingsbury, If the German files also say fighter i am inclined to think the were bounced by JG 11


Interesting to know if claimants noted the position of claim.

Chris Goss 30th September 2026 12:34

Re: 3 victory over P-38 15-04-1944 over Germany
 
From what I have seen, only the two pilots I mention noted the locations

Karoband 30th September 2026 13:35

Re: 3 victory over P-38 15-04-1944 over Germany
 
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/album....pictureid=1992

Hermichen's claims were at 50 m.

Snautzer 30th September 2026 15:39

Re: 3 victory over P-38 15-04-1944 over Germany
 
That would be straling height makes for me that the flight was bounced more subsational.

Thanks for this.


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