Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

Hi Friends,

Could anybody feel information on this a/c? Pilot? Place?
http://old.messerschmitt-bf109.de/pi...9f2_182-swfoto
Thank you very much to all.

E. Brettas
www.avesdobrasil.com.br
Bird of Brazil

Re: Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

It was listed as a damaged (25%) on one occation and then a loss on another. However this photo would appear to be when it was damaged, 40% by Walter Oesau on July 7, 1941 when he crashlanded after a fight with an enemy fighter. The markings match. The local is gived as Polonnoje.

Re: Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

The problem with that ID though it certainly seems logical, is that the kill tally on the tail doesn't match Oesau's at the time - think he had 40+. I think this was discussed here previously.

Re: Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

Oi John Beaman,
Where is Polonnoje?

Re: Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

Polonnoje is in the Ukraine, near Kiew.
III./JG 3 was there from 6.7.41 to 21.7.41.

Re: Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

Hi,

Thank you very much!

E. Brettas
www.avesdobrasil.com.br
Bird of Brazil

Re: Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

You are correct Jim. He actually had claimed 58 by that time. Perhaps they had not been confirmed, although that does seem a stretch between 58 and the number of marks on the tail. However, everything else fits.

Re: Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

Hi,

just a thought: what if he started counting "again" at the Russian front? Maybe those vics marked on the rudder are only his eastern victories, or optionally, his victories achieved during his service in JG 3?

Best regards
RM

Re: Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

The first two victories seems to have roundels above them - at least they look a lot lighter than the rest... Would be nice with a high resolution shot at the rudder...

Re: Bf 109F-2 WNr. 8240 III. JG 3
 

Olt.Herbert Kijewski?
He replaced wounded Hptm. Andres on the 28.08.41 and was acting Gruppenkommander. He claimed 3 victories in the West but only two were credited:
- 06.06.40 Spitfire
- 07.06.40 Spitfire
- 05.09.40 Hurricane (not credited)
His 18th victory came on the 26.08.41 and his 19th on the 11.09.41.
It`s only a assumption, but ?

Regards

Robert