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Chris Goss 14th December 2006 10:36

LBSt 7
 
Having just read the book 'To War with The RAF' by Stancombe Smith, it is clear that the author's Wellington was shot down by Hptm Ernst Wallner of LBSt 7 at 0020 hrs 14 Jun 44. Does anyone know more about Wallner (who doesn't appear in the Rangliste 1945) or the unit he flew with?

Gordon Raddock 14th December 2006 19:26

Re: LBSt 7
 
Hi Chris

Believe this could be Hptm. Ernst Wallner who later served with 6./NJG 6 caliming at least three victories with this unit to go with the two he recorded with LBSt. 7. Unfortunately, this is all I have for this Experte.

Cheers
Gordon

Chris Goss 14th December 2006 20:09

Re: LBSt 7
 
I guess it is the same-KIA 4-5 Dec 44 and according to the NJG 6 book, Luftbeobachterstaffel 7 was subordinated to NJG 6

Stig Jarlevik 14th December 2006 21:03

Re: LBSt 7
 
All
Excuse my ignorance, but what was a Luftbeobachter staffel and what was it purpose? From what I have gathered it was equipped with various twin-engined fighters, but what did they do that not a regular night fighter unit could do at least just as well? Its title in translation gives nothing much away. What were they watching, besides enemy planes?

Cheers
Stig

Andy Fletcher 15th December 2006 10:50

Re: LBSt 7
 
Hi Stig,

I believe that the Luftbeobachterstaffeln were formed to track Bomber Command raids by inserting themselves in the bomber stream and report on position, heading, altitude etc to provide a "real time" commentary.

One staffel per Jagddivision.

Best Regards

Andy Fletcher

Seaplanes 15th December 2006 11:29

Re: LBSt 7
 
According to BA/MA ref. RL 2 III/201, the Luftbeobachterstaffeln 1, 2, 3 and 7 were ordered formed on 24 January 1944.

RT 16th December 2006 21:57

Re: LBSt 7
 
Just losses for the 2 /nord-germ. nd 7 /austria-Italien from feb. to april 44

Remi

Stig Jarlevik 17th December 2006 14:36

Re: LBSt 7
 
Thanks Guys

But what was so special about this job that not the regular NJG could do it?

Cheers
Stig

RT 17th December 2006 21:49

Re: LBSt 7
 
At least that the job was performed by day with conventional JU88A-4 planes+ the fact to be attached to FL.Div. or bigger unit...not to a Geschwader+...

Remi


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