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Luc Vervoort 28th January 2007 13:31

19/05/1940 Ju87 shot down by Lysander-crew
 
Hi !

On 19/05/1940 the Lysander-crew, A.Geddes and Clarke, of 2 Squadron were able to shoot down a Ju87 at Kruisbos.

Who has more details about this victory ?
Where is Kruisbos located ?

Many thanks and best regards

Luc

Flupke 28th January 2007 18:21

Re: 19/05/1940 Ju87 shot down by Lysander-crew
 
Hi Luc
Where is Kruisbos ? I found only streets with that name !! Kruisberg?
I have no losses of Ju-87 in Belgium the 19th in my files
Regards
Phil

Peter T 28th January 2007 21:51

Re: 19/05/1940 Ju87 shot down by Lysander-crew
 
Hi,
it was a Ju 87 of LG 1, the plane was only damaged, nobody was wounded and the pilot returned to base.
Best wishes
peter

Col Ford 29th January 2007 10:36

Re: 19/05/1940 Ju87 shot down by Lysander-crew
 
Luc,

The published history of No.II(AC) Sqdn "Second to None" by Hans Onderwater includes a log section on this engagement, including the transcript of the Air Combat Report filed by Geddes. It notes "The Stuka crashed into a small wood near the village of Kruisbosch east of Oudenaerde." Flying Officer Tony Doidge drove to the reported crash site and confirmed the kill by telephone. "Belgian soldiers captured the German pilot. He was handed over to us and locked up in a cage in Bethune. The gunner was killed in the battle."

So a reported crash site, confirmed by a visual inspection, a captured pilot, sounds like a 'kill' to me. The PRO should possibly still hold a copy of the relevant AIR file containing the Air Combat report given it was so comprehensively quoted verbatim in the No.II(AC) Sqnd history.

Regards,

montana 29th January 2007 15:52

Re: 19/05/1940 Ju87 shot down by Lysander-crew
 
Hi Luc,

On May 19th, there was a Hs 126 of the 2.(H)/41 shot down in the Oudenaarde area...

Rgds.

Flupke 29th January 2007 20:10

Re: 19/05/1940 Ju87 shot down by Lysander-crew
 
Hi Luc

Something happened there , no doubts !! maybe the HS-126 2.(H)/41 as Montana wrote
Uffz Meermann Gerhard (RTD)-- Fw Carl Herbert (WND) but the pilot return (maybe liberated by the advance of the Germans?) and the observer was “only” wounded !!??

Unfortunately , I am still unable to locate that village !! Maybe Kruisbergen near Kwaremont 9.5KM SE of Oudenaarde ?

Regards
Phil

Peter T 30th January 2007 19:49

Re: 19/05/1940 Ju87 shot down by Lysander-crew
 
Sorry guys, nothing was shot down, I have an account from the German side, giving exact date, place and aircraft type.
Peter

Luc Vervoort 31st January 2007 21:38

19/05/1940 Ju87 shot down by Lysander-crew
 
Hi Peter !

Which is the place mentioned in the German document ?

Many thanks and best regards.

Luc

Peter T 1st February 2007 22:03

Re: 19/05/1940 Ju87 shot down by Lysander-crew
 
Hi Luc,

it was near Oudenaarde. Pilot of the Ju 87 was Uffz Walz. Source is report by Oblt Blasig.

Regards

peter


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