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edwest 1st February 2007 02:56

Photos 1-31 part two of two
 
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edwest 1st February 2007 03:23

Re: Photos 1-31 part two of two
 
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John Beaman 1st February 2007 16:45

Re: Photos 1-31 part two of two
 
If the date on the back of the photos of sw. 8 of JG 54 is correct, it could be the F-2 (not a G) of Gefr. Rudolf Gerecke of 2./JG 54 who crash landed after an air battle. Interestingly, the loss is given as 100%, but if this is his machine, it does not look that bad.

markjsheppard 1st February 2007 19:42

Re: Photos 1-31 part two of two
 
John

Would that not depend on whether it was recoverable?

This may have been when the German unit arrived to blow it up.

A number of aircraft have been recovered from Russia which are 10-20% damage listings but 100% because they colud not be recovered.

Would be interesting to know where it forcelanded?

regards

Mark

John Beaman 1st February 2007 22:28

Re: Photos 1-31 part two of two
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markjsheppard (Post 36623)
John

Would be interesting to know where it forcelanded?

regards

Mark

Yes, you are right. The soldiers messing with it might be an indicator if it was "recoverable". the location is given as "bei Kingisepp"

hihotte 1st February 2007 22:45

Re: Photos 1-31 part two of two
 
John, there are two different dates on the back of the photos, 18.July42 and 23.July42 and to me the aircraft looks like some Landser laid hands on the wreck already. The photographer states that the shots were taken on this dates, that doesn´t necessarily mean that the aircraft came down on that date. Do you have an earlier date for the crash, which fits to black 8 from 2.JG54?
hihotte

John Beaman 1st February 2007 23:24

Re: Photos 1-31 part two of two
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hihotte (Post 36633)
John, there are two different dates on the back of the photos, 18.July42 and 23.July42 and to me the aircraft looks like some Landser laid hands on the wreck already. The photographer states that the shots were taken on this dates, that doesn´t necessarily mean that the aircraft came down on that date. Do you have an earlier date for the crash, which fits to black 8 from 2.JG54?
hihotte

No, not of any meaning.

markjsheppard 2nd February 2007 00:10

Re: Photos 1-31 part two of two
 
John

The only possibility listing I can see is the following.

25.06.42
2/JG54
Bf109F-4 WNr.7454
20%
Pl.Qu.19271

No tactical number or pilot name.

summer 1942 and damage % seem to be consistant.

Nothing else (in the JG54 lists) seems close.

Any thoughts

regards

Mark


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