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Nokose 17th February 2007 00:37

JG54 Victories
 
21Sep44
Uffz Frindolin Bachhuber 15./JG54 16:20 P-47
Uffz Ernst Egerer (Egener?) 16./JG54 16:25 P-47

56th FG Losses on 21Sep44:
P-47 (42-26316) 2nd Lt Oscar Cagle (KIA)
P-47 (43-25515) 2nd Lt Harold Spicer (KIA) near Denekamp

25Sep44
Maj. Wolfgang Spaete Stab IV/JG54 18:02 Mitchell
Lt Alfred Budde 14./JG54 18:02 Mitchell
Uffz Klaus Gehring 14./JG54 18:01 Mitchell
Lt Heinrich Sterr 16./JG54 18:05 Mitchell

RAF 98 Sqn Losses 25Sep44
B-25 (FW194)
B-25 (FW211)

26 Sep44 14:20
Maj Wolfgang Spaete Stab IV
Spitfire 416 Sqn RAF Flt Lt G.R. Patterson (POW) SSE of Doetinchem (Arnheim)

Nokose 17th February 2007 00:49

Re: JG54 Victories
 
27Aug44
Uffz Hans Goetzelt 15./JG54 16:21 Boston III (Douglas A-20 1GMTAP KBF)
Uffz Fridolin Bachhuber 15./JG54 16:30 Boston III (Douglas A-20 1GMTAP KBF)
Lt Hans Ransmayer (Claims)
Yak-9 (16:15), Yak-9 (16:17), Yak-9 (16:19), Yak-9 (16:26)
Uffz Hanno Ott (Claim) Airacobra (16:23)

Douglas A-20 1GMTAP loss not on Tony Woods list so unk at this time who shot it down.

karl lusink 17th February 2007 10:17

Re: JG54 Victories
 
Hello
Oscar Cagle of 56th FG crashed at Saasveld (Weerselo)
Harold Spicer crashed near Lochem this a/c was recovered by the ARGA
www.arga-nl.nl

Mitchell II FW-211 - 98 sq crashed at Neerbosch(Dorpstraat 148/150)
Mitchell II FW-194 - 98 sq crashed at Arnhem

regards
karl lusink

Nokose 17th February 2007 21:17

Re: JG54 Victories
 
From thread of Laurent Rizzoti & members (27Jan06): Libua 28Oct44

Maj. Erich Rudorffer Stab II/JG54
Il-2 (11:46), Il-2 (11:47), Il-2 (11:48), Il-2 (11:49), Il-2 (11:50), Il-2 (11:53), Il-2 (11:53), Il-2 (11:54), Il-2 (11:56)
Uffz Hugo Broch II/JG54
Il-2 (11:44), Il-2 (11:46)
Fw Kurt Tangerman Stab II/JG54
Il-2 (11:47), Il-2 (11:48)
Lt Gerhard Thyben II/JG54
Il-2 (11:54)
Obfhr Ludwig Boees 2./JG54 (not mentioned original thread)
Il-2 (12:25), Il-2 (12:27)

VVS losses on raid:
Il-2 47 ShAD KBF M. Lt Yurii Petrovich Zakharchenko & gunner (KIA)
9 km SW of Libua
Il-2 8 GShAD (?)
Il-2 8 GShAD (?)

Rob Romero 18th February 2007 02:28

Re: JG54 Victories
 
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Rob Romero 18th February 2007 02:30

Re: JG54 Victories
 
3 of 16 Verified Victories -That's pretty bad -any ostenisble reason.

Rob Romero

Nokose 18th February 2007 03:05

Re: JG54 Victories
 
06Apr41 Pecs, Hungary
Wolfgang Spaete 5./JG54
12:00 Blenheim I (RYAF 8 Bomber Wing)

07Apr41
Lt. Hans Beisswenger 6./JG54
17:50 Hurricane I (Ind. Esk. JKRV Kp Danio Gribic-WIA)

19Jul41 Oesel Island
Uffz Otto Fischer 1.(Erg)/JG54 19:21 I-15
Lt Walter Nowotny 1.(Erg)/JG54 19:24 I-15
Nowotny 19:25 I-15
(No VVS losses per research by Andrey Dikov)

03Mar43
Oblt Hans Beisswenger 6./JG54
14:53 LaGG-3 (32 GIAP)
14:57 LaGG-3 (32 GIAP St. Lt Ivan Kholdov)
(from www.luftwaffe.cz )

17Mar44 Baltic Sea
Oblt Erwin Leykauf 11./JG54 10:50 Boston III (Douglas A-20 1GMTAP KBF Lt. Sharygin)

Kari Lumppio 18th February 2007 11:08

Re: JG54 Victories
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokose (Post 37904)
17Mar44 Baltic Sea
Oblt Erwin Leykauf 11./JG54 10:50 Boston III (Douglas A-20 1GMTAP KBF Lt. Sharygin)

Hello!

I started wondering the above as IV/JG54 was at the time based at Tartu (Dorpat, Estonia) minus the 12./JG54 which was at Petseri (Pechory). In other words nowhere near the Gulf of Filnland.

In Wood's list is given grid 99553. More precisely it's 25 Ost 99553 and the location is near Pljussa (about midway between Pskov and Luga).

I find it unlikely that the Boston Leykauf claimed was the 1 GMTAP/Sharygin one. If it indeed was the one they were far away from their normal operation area. Which was Baltic Sea, more precisely Gulf of Finland area in March 1944.

The claim-loss matches are not an easy "business" and are prone to errors.


Regards,
Kari

Nokose 18th February 2007 16:45

Re: JG54 Victories
 
Kari, The match for JG54 was already done on www.bellabs.ru/51/ . Leykauf was the only one that I could find to match that day in JG54. As far as the grids go, I tried to get someone to locate one that should have been in Russia but came up in Poland. Maybe it was an error on the grid or the person with the 1GMTAP history but they were a naval bomber unit hitting naval and transport targets. Maybe the answers can come up on this thread.

Best regards,
Nokose

Nokose 18th February 2007 18:24

Re: JG54 Victories
 
47 ShAP KBF raid on Libua 14Dec44 lost 10 Il-2's one being Lt Col. Nelson Georgievich Stepanyan & crew (KIA). Seven other crews were also KIA.
(See www.allaces.ru ) All from attacks by FW-190's. No listing on Tony Woods list.


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