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robert 15th March 2005 21:38

Research help
 
Hi everyone,

At now I researh the victory claims of I/JG76 from June and July 1940.
I would like to find out the british victims of this claims (a/c, unites, crews).
I wonder if there is someone who can help me?
Here are the claims:
27.06.40 Lt.J.Schypek Blenheim 15.22 Harlem
o4.07.40 unf.G.Behse Blenheim 12.10 west of Rotterdam
07.07.40 Fw.G.Kiening Blenheim 17.55
08.07.40 Unf.M.Stotz Blenheim 14.10 south of Rotterdam
16.07.40 Fw.G.Kiening Blenheim 06.50 ne of Bruegge
18.07.40 Fw.G.Kiening Blenheim 14.07 sw of Vlissingen
20.07.40 unf.O.Frauendorf Blenheim 13.45 Rotterdam
30.07.40 Olt.F.Eckerle Blenheim 20.04 Vlissingen
01.08.40 Olt.F.Eckerle Blenheim 16.50 Haamstede
01.08.40 Ofw.M.Hauer Blenheim 17.00 Haamstede
02.08.40 Unf.H.Schaetzel Blenheim 11.55 Ijmuiden

Any help will be gratefully received.

Regards

Robert

BIGVERN1966 19th September 2008 00:41

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235 squadron Blenheim IV N3543 "LA-U", one of 4 from the unit shot down over the Netherlands on the 27th June 1940. The aircraft was shot down in the vicinity of Oegstregst at 15:30 hours by a Messerschmitt BF 109 of 2./JG76 flown by Lt Joachim Schypek. The crew of the Blenhiem, Pilot Officer Alan Roger Wales (pilot), Sergeant (Observer) John Walter Needham and Sergeant (W/Op) Thomas Charles Jordan all died as a result of the engagement. Two being killed in the crash and the third died shortly after of his injuries. (Friend at work asked me this afternoon if I could identify a photo of an wrecked aircraft taken by his German Grandfather in law while he served in the Luftwaffe during WWII). Photo showed the tail section of the Blenheim on the ground in the Netherlands.

robert 19th September 2008 09:26

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Hi,

thanks for such splendid addition to my old post.

Robert

Hans Nauta 19th September 2008 12:13

Re: Research help
 
Hello Robert,

Small correction to the info posted by bigvern1966 above: the place name is OEGSTGEEST. Can't blame anyone, Dutch names can be confusing in writing down. Apart from that the claim was made at 15.22 hrs.

Other matching losses:
04.07.40 Blenheim L8866 18 Sqdn
16.07.40 Blenheim P6933 18 Sqdn
18.07.40 Blenheim R3661 53 Sqdn
20.07.40 Blenheim R3738 110 Sqdn
30.07.40 Blenheim R3764 15 Sqdn
01.08.40 Blenheim R3898 114 Sqdn (Eckerle's claim)

02.08.40 Blenheim attacked but escaped, identity unknown and not found in The National Archives, London. Probably 40 or 114 Squadron.

Best regards,
Hans Nauta

robert 19th September 2008 13:15

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Hi Hans,

thanks for your help :)

Regards

Robert

BIGVERN1966 19th September 2008 21:05

Re: Research help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans Nauta (Post 73502)
Hello Robert,

Small correction to the info posted by bigvern1966 above: the place name is OEGSTGEEST. Can't blame anyone, Dutch names can be confusing in writing down. Apart from that the claim was made at 15.22 hrs.

Other matching losses:
04.07.40 Blenheim L8866 18 Sqdn
16.07.40 Blenheim P6933 18 Sqdn
18.07.40 Blenheim R3661 53 Sqdn
20.07.40 Blenheim R3738 110 Sqdn
30.07.40 Blenheim R3764 15 Sqdn
01.08.40 Blenheim R3898 114 Sqdn (Eckerle's claim)

02.08.40 Blenheim attacked but escaped, identity unknown and not found in The National Archives, London. Probably 40 or 114 Squadron.

Best regards,
Hans Nauta

Thanks for the correction Hans. Info on where N3543 came down and at what time was taken from the Net, so not my mistakes. As for my fist post gald to be of service Robet. Just out of interest does anybody know what the 235 Sqn aircraft was tasked with at the time it was shot down.

Hans Nauta 20th September 2008 10:29

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Hello Bigvern,

Blenheim N3543 was one of a flight of six, sent out for a recce between Hook of Holland and Texel, including the IJsselmeer (former Zuiderzee).
The flight encountered several Me 109's and four of the Blenheims were eventually shot down.

Best regards,
Hans Nauta

Chris Goss 20th September 2008 11:04

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I have written an article on the 27 Jun 40 incident having contacted a number of the survivors (including Schypek) -I can send you a copy if you are interested

Hans Nauta 20th September 2008 11:15

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Hello Chris,

Yes, I would be very interested. One of the killed crewmembers of Blenheim P6957 washed ashore here, just a few miles from my place of living.

I can supply other interesting material in return if you like.

hnautaATquicknetDOTnl. Please replace AT and DOT for the obvious symbols.

Best regards,
Hans Nauta

BIGVERN1966 20th September 2008 16:40

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Hello Hans and Chris.

Thanks for the info Hans.

Chris, I'll like a copy of your work about the events on the day as well please.

E-mail is Bigvern66uk(AT)Yahoo(DOT)CO(DOT)UK

Regards Richard

Off Topic

My workmate gave me a CD of scanned images from his late German Grandfather in Law's WWII photo album, as they had been saved in a Coraldraw file format that he couldn't open. Unfortunately none of the photos were labelled, but for the cover which said 'The war'. He was based in the Netherlands where I think a lot of the photographs were taken. Some of them are of wrecked Luftwaffe (JU-88), Dutch (I think, the type is unknown to me and not an expert at non RAF aircraft) and RAF (Burnt out Wellington and the Blenheim) aircraft, plus my friend reckons Herman Goeing is in one of the Photos. I think he is right (photo attached). Anybody have a clue what the identity of these aircraft are (A long shot, as I’ve no details of where they were taken). If not, no problems.


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