uff.sawallisch JG27
 

hello guys
reflection about victories of the "infamed schwarm"

ok it is suspect,very suspect 63! victories for a schwarm but why not?

the source for verified the loses and victories are the good book but very old of ring and shores but 1969 for the english edition and 1978 german with no correction.

many archives of british squadron are lost or incomplete and in the book nothing about regia aeronautica,french"alsace",just a little about 57 us fighter group....

history of JG53 and JG 77 incorrect(see books of jochen prien for exemple)

to bee continued....
regards

Re: uff.sawallisch JG27
 

horrido, 1969,book,fighter aces,,c t oliver.all luftwaffe pro, no false claims there,as ive read this book ,,,,,,,,not very good,in my opinion,not imfomative,, has nice things on nearly all major aces through.but thats my opinon,i sold it .,,,,


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.but it does contain some very ,racist remarks, see back of book nazi "" sky warriors just doesnt cut it for me,.as the luftwaffe were non nazi,,,i dont like that word N<offencive.
if you play some playstation two games not the pc ones,"""same old story.nasty ,the one called weapons over normandy,as some mild, remarks, but you would have to have good hearin,to notice,,,,,,,,,,
gary

Re: uff.sawallisch JG27
 

There are a lot of losses missing from the desert, but very few from July 42 onwards when the retreat stopped. There is even a very good source of all the 57th FG casualties to the end of Tunisia, most of which arent in ther HSores/Ring books because the source wasnt released until the 1990's. For example Fighters Over the Desert is missing 5 of 450's losses all on 30 and 31 May 42, and there is one day in June 42 when the French Hurricanes get slaughtered. As far as I am aware having read everything possible in the National Archives on this, we can establish, the experte schwarm was in contact with the RAF every time they made suspicious claims. They just didnt shoot anything down. One one occassion they did damage two. They are not the only ones, just compare III/JG 27 and IV/ JG 27 a year later, I have never found anything that ties in with Bartels and his schwarm, where as III/JG 27 are prety accurate.

Regards

Russell

Re: uff.sawallisch JG27
 

hi,thanks for info, did the french have hurricanes, there too.,i didnt know that i thought always they were in syria,/lebanon.moroco.i know there were south afrikan p40s,but french hurricanes,ill check that book,
gary