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kaki3152 22nd June 2007 05:09

Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
My guess would be a Bulgarian Avia 534 during a Ploesti raid.

Csaba B. Stenge 22nd June 2007 09:00

Re: Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
The Avias never shot down any 4 engine bombers. My vote is a lightweight early Japanese fighter.

CJE 22nd June 2007 09:15

Re: Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
Indeed, the Avias could not even catch up the B-24s and lost several (?) of their own to the gunners.

Dénes Bernád 22nd June 2007 16:52

Re: Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CJE (Post 45208)
Indeed, the Avias could not even catch up the B-24s and lost several (?) of their own to the gunners.

It was indeed a Czech Avia fighter, but not the Avia B-534, but the even more obscure type, the B-135.

For details, check the Avia B-35/B-135 monography book published by MBI in Prague, book I co-authored.

http://www.press.sk/images/obchod/product/aviab35.jpg

Csaba B. Stenge 22nd June 2007 18:07

Re: Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
I am not so familiar with the Bulgarian aviation, but according to my knowledge, the B.135 monoplanes really claimed one B-24 (on 30 March, 1944, when the 15th AAF attacked Sofia) The 450th BG lost one Liberator on that day (from the 723rd Sq, crew of Lt. Clarke). I have just the info, that a tail gunner from one another plane reported the plane falling down without control, but they did not mention attacking fighters (just AA fire). So maybe they shot it down, but maybe not (crashed due to other cause but was confirmed to the fighters) My vote is still a Japanese fighter (but need sb who researched very deeply their Army aviation)

Flitzer 23rd June 2007 02:13

Re: Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
I'll go with Slt av Constantin Balta's two B-24 kills with an IAR 81C.

(Osprey Aircraft of the Aces 54)

kaki3152 23rd June 2007 05:41

Re: Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
Ok,I'll stick my nose again into this obscure quest. It was a Japanese Pete floatplane in 1942.

Failing that, did the French D-520s ever claim a four engined bomber? They flew extensively with the German training schoold who ocasionallly claimed victories.

Carlos

Csaba B. Stenge 23rd June 2007 09:12

Re: Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
Carlos,

If you are looking for Dewoitine claims, check again the Bulgarian AF, since they flew sorties against the 15th AAF with the type between 10 December, 1943 and 5 April, 1944 (and claimed air victories as well).

kaki3152 23rd June 2007 10:18

Re: Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
That would be some interesting information!
Wonder how many victories were ultimately claimed.

Csaba B. Stenge 23rd June 2007 12:12

Re: Most Obscure Fighter to down an American 4 engined bomber
 
Here is an online list of the Bulgarian claims:
http://members.aol.com/bogdanovaslav...mbats1943.html







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