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robert 15th July 2007 19:02

The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Hi,

I`m looking for following informations:
- I wonder if somebody has the names of crewmembers of the V-156F No.84 from the AB3, which crash-landed in the late evening on the beach by Isigny
- time of mission of the Potez 63.11 No.151 from the GRI/36, which was badly damaged by Bf110s (perhaps if not exactly time only sugestion:dawn, morning, afternoon, evening)

Regards

Robert

Stig Jarlevik 15th July 2007 19:29

Re: The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Robert

No answer I'm afraid, but I am wondering about the serial you give for the Vought. Since only 40 were ordered and delivered the highest number known is 40, which means it is not possible for a serial number 84 to exist

Any update with regard to the correct number??

Cheers
Stig

Peter Cornwell 16th July 2007 08:39

Re: The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Hello Robert,

Nothing on the time of the GR I/36 loss nor anything for AB3 I'm afraid but I do have the following on 17 May 1940 ?

AB 1 Vought 156F (4). Damaged during attack on Walcheren and crash-landed out of fuel on beach near Isigny. Mt. Claude and SM Le Guevel unhurt. Aircraft 2 a write-off.

Alex Smart 16th July 2007 10:29

Re: The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Hello R%obert,

Where did you find the info about the V-156F being number 84 , would you be so kind as to give us details please.

alex

robert 16th July 2007 18:58

Re: The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Hello all,

I don`t remember the source - probably it was an article from Internet - so it`s no truth.
Thanks Peter for your additions. The number 4 in brackets representing serial or fuselage number?

Regards

Robert

Stig Jarlevik 16th July 2007 20:18

Re: The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Peter

I would appreciate to know your source for your details. I have a couple of books by Lucien Morareau and they only confirm that aeroplane No 4 was in use by AB1. Nothing is listed by him on the 17th as a loss though.

The digit 4 listed in brackets is, if I understand you correctly, the serial number?
When you say aircraft 2 does that refer to the fuselage code? The V.156F seems to have been one of those aeroplanes using seperate fuselage codes vs serialnumbers on the tail fin/rudder

Cheers
Stig

Peter Cornwell 17th July 2007 09:09

Re: The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Stig,

This loss is mentioned by Lucien Morareau on p29 of his L’Aéronautique Navale Française (Hors Série Avions No1). Details of the aircraft came from an unpublished list compiled by Morareau which I received from a well-respected Belgian researcher. As you rightly suppose, the number in brackets is the serial number while the other number was the fuselage code. As you say, these were not always the same number which can lead to confusion.

Stig Jarlevik 17th July 2007 20:25

Re: The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Thanks Peter

Being interested in French aviation is unfortunately not the same as being able to read the darn (sorry :) ) language... I see where it is mentioned after hobbling through the page again.

Seing your answers to everything "the French campaign", makes it more and more interesting to get your book, once it gets published! I hope we don't have to wait too long Peter?

Cheers
Stig

Peter Cornwell 19th July 2007 09:45

Re: The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Hello Stig,

Not too long to wait now. The text & page layouts are done and we are wading through the indexing queries and final amendments etc. Maybe the end of this year.

Stig Jarlevik 19th July 2007 20:47

Re: The 17th May 1940 over France
 
Peter

:D

Cheers
Stig


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