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gedburke3 6th August 2007 19:57

Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
Hi,
Could anyone help me out with information on a Ju88 that was shot down into the Sea by Roy Dutton whilst he was with 111 Squadron.
According to varios books he is credited with a He111 on this date, but I have seen a letter written by Dutton that claims that this is a mistake and that he had definately shot down an '88.
Many thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer me.
Gerry

Andreas Brekken 6th August 2007 21:00

Re: Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
Hi.

Luftflotte 2 reported a Ju 88 as 'Nicht zuruckgekehrt', thus not returned, from a Feindflug on 8.3.1940. The aircraft was from I./K.G.30 and the crew consisted of 4 crewmembers commanded by Obltn v.Sich??? (the three ??? denoting a part of the name which I cannot read fully from my copy of the microfilm).

Maybe this could be a possible?

Definitely people that have more info than me on early days of WWII.

Regards,
Andreas B

Jim P. 6th August 2007 21:45

Re: Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
Ju 88A-1, , Sicharthoff, Oblt. Frithjof von, , 2., KG 30, , , , , 08-Mar-40, , POW with crew after Luftkampf with 111 Sq. (F/O Dutton)., , , Lfl.2/Nordsee, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.1; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/1173, p.190; Shores, Fledgling Eagles, p.179, , 65km östlich Orkney-Inseln, 100%, F

Chris Goss 6th August 2007 22:05

Re: Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
I have a note that Oblt Fritjof Sichart Von Sichartshoff of 2/KG 30 was shot down but that he and his crew were interned in Denmark?

RT 6th August 2007 22:21

Re: Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
Still an other mystery, seems to hv returned at least till Denmark, where they where interned, but a loss list dated 9. of dec.40, still quote them as missing..
Nethertheless the names are

Oblt von Sichart frittjof, nice name
Ge Rothe karl
Fw Marheinecke paul
Uffz Severin josef

Remi

RT 6th August 2007 22:24

Re: Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
Only one thing, the report quote the 3.KG30 , for these guys

gedburke3 6th August 2007 23:40

Re: Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
Thank you so much for these quick replies.
I think it is possible that this was the first time a JU88 was shot down during the war, is that correct?
According to the letter, the Ju88 span in to the sea from about 10 feet and disintegrated on impact. He says that as he flew past the geyser of spray he saw a body spinning ahead of some burning wreckage. It then goes on to say that two RN destroyers recovered a body and some burning wreckage.
Many thanks
Gerry

Andreas Brekken 7th August 2007 00:01

Re: Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
Hi

The one who looks in his files also finds....

I found that I had a copy of the Namentliche Verlustemeldung for these guys, and the details I found there where that they all are listed as belonging to 2. Staffel Kampfgeschwader 30

The loss reason is noted as 'Vermutlich durch feindl.Jäger abgeschossen' - 'Probably shot down by enemy fighter aircraft'

The names as they are written in the NVM are:

Frithjof v.Sichartshoff ('shoff' added by hand), Oblt, Flugzeugführer
Paul Marheineke, Fw, Bombenschütze
Josef Severin, Uffz, Bordfunker
Karl Rothe, Gefr, Bordschütze

But what became of them...

Regards,
Andreas B

gedburke3 7th August 2007 00:36

Re: Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
Thank you again for the quick reply.
Would you consider swopping a copy of your document for a copy of Roy Duttons letter?
My email is gedburke3@yahoo.co.uk
Thanks
Gerry

Chris Goss 7th August 2007 07:53

Re: Luftwaffe Ju88 Lost on 8th March 1940
 
Just checked my copy ofd the NVM-definitely says 2 Staffel and English north coast (Orkneys) and that they were later assumed killed.

This was no way the first one lost in combat-9 Oct 39 (Flak), 16 Oct 39 (2-fighters), 17 Oct 39 (Flak), 1 Jan 40 (fighters), 3 Feb 40 (Flak), 9 Feb (Flak), then this one


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